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manlyphall 

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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 7:46 pm |
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republican, and this is me. im a proud marine, loving father of a 2 yearold boy, support gun rights and national forest preservation, believe in philanthropy, and im a tattoo convention promoter. and... im pro life. do i look like a typical republican? im not a racist thats for sure. my left sleeve was done by craig foster(african american) and my left sleeve by roman abrego(mexcian). dont judge a book by it's cover ladies and gentleman. everyone has their own political opinions. were all different. that whats makes this world awesome!
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ol-zeke 
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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 8:03 pm |
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Pro-choice, anti gun ownership, pro environment, Democrat, Green, Tree Hugger, anti nuclear power, pro equal rights and terminology for everyone, anti DOMA, pro Universal Healthcare and Single Payer. Just about the opposite of the OP.
I have a few tats, and am considering another. As I near the age where I can draw Social Security, I find myself wondering where to spend it. Might need to go on a few more trips. LOL
-------------- Everything I know, I learned by doing it wrong at least twice.
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orygawn 
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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 8:32 pm |
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Well at least you're banging a blow-up doll instead of a little boy, like most republicans. So that's good.
(I kid, I kid!)
-------------- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -- Galileo
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Gabby 

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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 10:41 pm |
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Now, here's something new and interesting...
A dude slides onto a forum, starts by creating a post on the TPA that starts:
"i was laid off a couple of months ago and my financial situation has turned to the worse."
...and proceeds to ask if EBT will get him backpacking provisions for an "extended stay in the National Forest system" - and here he is in a photograph, holding a plastic doll and wearing a "Motley Crue" teeshirt.
Or, is it “real”?
I suppose, if I “buy into” the idea that this really is the guy who goes by the screen name “manlyphall”, then the appearance more-or-less verifies the internet-oriented style of writing and posting with no punctuation or capitalization, and numerous misspelled words. (My daughter too eschews proper grammar and spelling on the web, declaring it superfluous and unnecessary for her to be understood. But then, I see that she must really bear down and concentrate hard in order to complete essay assignments given in classes in college, and she usually enlists me to “proofread” them for her. Still, I’m also more methodical when writing something “formal”, and she gets good grades and, generally, writes papers quite acceptably, so maybe she’s right.)
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Okay, so the object of this thread is, I guess, to show that whoever “manlyphall” is, he is, in fact, real: "I'm a real person, and I vote."
But, "ladies and gentleman" [copied verbatim, but sic], does this do the trick? Is it enough?
If I too post a photo and a description, would any of you trust absolutely that it's a sort of "certification" that the person illustrated is actually "Gabby", and the story is true beyond a doubt? Even though I’ve been posting here in much the same manner for some time?
Of course not. That picture and description may, or may not, be "manlyphall". We still don't know. To believe otherwise would be extremely naïve. It probably is, in fact, the dude. How do we know?
What constitutes "real" for anyone online? What does it mean to say that a person is someone who's objectively "real"? Am I, Gabby, real? Well, I think I am, and, by golly, I don’t think I’m fooled by my own manifestation either way. But is it more complicated than that? What constitutes “real” online?
Let's look at some, at least on this forum (and wholly within the area of "IMHO", mind you) who are definitely NOT "real".
There is a relatively large contingent of people here who boldly voice (more emphatically, "regurgitate") the "party line", whether that's of their chosen religion or their chosen political party. I'm not talking about anyone who actually participates in a conversation by arguing points about any particular subject. Take, for instance, a few of our own, who I don’t think I need to name: They appear from time to time, start a thread about some controversial meme that's circulating around the web with a quote and often no comment whatsoever, then mostly disappear. Or they "drop in" on a thread and make yet another in a series of mostly self-deprecative comments, though, of course, they aren't really aware of the self-deprecative nature of such inane repetitions of Glenn Beck, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, the latest GOP "talking points", and such – or some other obscure “hero” who is their “personal favorite”.
When asked for some reasoning for why or how they arrived at the conclusions they so demonstratively espouse, they are almost never able to respond. Sometimes they’ll give some weak reference to one of the sources online that they frequent, but never much more than that. They can’t, in their own words, explain their reasoning. They resort to further “regurgitation” and “proof” by quoting various sources, which, upon closer examination, oftentimes prove just as “non real” as they. They cough up an internalized line or two or complain about being “victimized” or “unfair treatment” at the hands of the “forum locals”, but never, never ever do they actually produce anything substantive or convincing to support their position(s).
And that’s what I’m saying here. There are a relatively large number – larger than anyone would believe without having experienced it – of “characters” around this forum who constitute entities I’d have to say are NOT “real”. Yes, there are a number, both from the ranks of the religious and from the political right who seem to actually think. Offhand, I’d give kyle2193 such a distinction (just to be somewhat more specific, without unnecessary denigration of anyone else), because, even though we don’t often agree on anything, he often actually contributes to a discussion, is rarely “doctrinaire”, and exhibits what I would regard as traits of someone who was “real”. He seems to think. (I’m sure he’d contend that I’m making far too weak an argument here on his behalf – but he’s more than capable of defending himself.)
There are a number of people who have posted here from the ranks of those who are “believers”, but only a few actually appear to be “real”, as in “thinking human beings”. No, I mostly don’t agree with their positions either – but they have convinced me that they are “real” simply by exhibiting, quite clearly, that they think.
Lest anyone think I’m just picking on the right here: Yes, there have been (and still are) a number of folk posting here who do the same sort of thing, but from the left of the political spectrum. They pretty much know who they are. Many of us really enjoy an “occasional snarky remark” as a matter of “fun and games” as well, but those “zingers” are very often supported by strong and mostly clear – and clearly worded, with only an occasional typo – points which show reasoning: so they are most definitely “real”.
Mind you, I’ve never actually met anyone on this forum (as far as I know – don’t want to make generalizations of which I can’t absolutely be certain!), but I know, intuitively, who is “real” and who is NOT “real” at all. And very few have posted bios or photos. I don’t need them.
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"By the way: where am I?"
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manlyphall 

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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 10:41 pm |
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i'd like to hear everybodies story here. i try not to judge
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Gabby 

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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 10:50 pm |
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I'd say you already have judged.
I'll hold my final decision on "manlyphall" in abeyance until I see what happens. Or doesn't happen.
-------------- "I wouldn't even know how to begin to find the 'peyote lady', even if I thought it was possible in this incarnation...I'm completely tripped out on everyday life."
"By the way: where am I?"
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manlyphall 

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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 10:50 pm |
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gabby... you need to lighten up. do you contribute to this site other than key-stroking? like... donate monies and what not. this isnt your website. it's like your a vampire hunter looking for trolls. it's not that serious babe. one joke at a time... live to learn, learn to live
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orygawn 
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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 10:58 pm |
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OK....so.....why does your blowup doll have gray hair?
Looks a little bit like Bea Arthur
-------------- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -- Galileo
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manlyphall 

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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 11:12 pm |
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hell, i can survive with just a knife and some rope lol. marine corps taught me well
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orygawn 
Sleeping Bag Man!

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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 11:22 pm |
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Well given your service, I'd like to start a collection to help buy you a shift key
(I kid, I kid!)
-------------- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -- Galileo
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Gabby 

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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012, 11:24 pm |
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...but you missed my obvious, and tediously generated, point: As far as the internet goes, you can't rely on pictures or narrative to support your actual existence as some being - you have to actually appear to have a "thinking apparatus" on your shoulders.
Sans that - and there are many among us who have "vacant spaces" parked on their necks - you aren't actually "real".
As far as "lighten up": I regard myself as being pretty "light" and easy-going. Mind you, manlyphall, that many of you have suddenly appeared now that it's just before an election, and it's getting crowded in here with folk who seem to have siimply "crashed in without introduction" to tout the Republican candidate and rag on Obama - and I think it's reasonable to question someone who didn't bother to slowly acquaint himself with the forum, to the extent of asking what was ostensibly a "gear question" on the TPA.
But, whatever: I've been wrong before, however skeptical I may be of your sudden appearance. Some of you young guys are brash as hell. (If you are "young"... )
Edit: And, no, it most definitely is NOT my website. I just call 'em as I see 'em. You have to admit that your sudden appearance in the TPA was not auspicious. There seems to be a feeling among recent newcomers that the way to introduce yourself is to simply start a fight - but, hey - like you say - it ain't my website.
-------------- "I wouldn't even know how to begin to find the 'peyote lady', even if I thought it was possible in this incarnation...I'm completely tripped out on everyday life."
"By the way: where am I?"
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hbfa 

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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012, 12:14 am |
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The Marines lay people off?
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cgaphiker 
Hen Wallow Falls

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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012, 12:33 am |
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(orygawn @ Oct. 24 2012, 12:17 am)
QUOTE (cgaphiker @ Oct. 23 2012, 9:15 pm)
QUOTE You're after his blow up doll ain't ya?  Busted!! I loves me the inflatable GMILFS. Not temperamental like the young ones, and so grateful. I know what you mean man, I know what you mean... sigh
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manlyphall 

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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012, 5:03 am |
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(davela @ Oct. 24 2012, 3:28 am)
QUOTE (Gabby @ Oct. 23 2012, 10:41 pm)
QUOTE Now, here's something new and interesting...
A dude slides onto a forum, starts by creating a post on the TPA that starts:
"i was laid off a couple of months ago and my financial situation has turned to the worse."....... make generalizations of which I can’t absolutely be certain!), but I know, intuitively, who is “real” and who is NOT “real” at all. And very few have posted bios or photos. I don’t need them. the doll doesnt disturb me as much as the motley crue shirt. nothing disturbs me more than seeing your screen name... you reek of fail on every level
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Raznation 
Why surf when you can make waves!

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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012, 7:26 am |
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(cgaphiker @ Oct. 23 2012, 11:15 pm)
QUOTE (orygawn @ Oct. 23 2012, 11:51 pm)
QUOTE (Gabby @ Oct. 23 2012, 8:24 pm)
QUOTE Edit: And, no, it most definitely is NOT my website. I just call 'em as I see 'em. You have to admit that your sudden appearance in the TPA was not auspicious. There seems to be a feeling among recent newcomers that the way to introduce yourself is to simply start a fight - but, hey - like you say - it ain't my website. Well assuming he's real, and assuming his first post was a joke intended to see what kind of responses he'd get...it would be the first R with a sense of humor I've seen in a while. And humor does imply intelligence. You're after his blow up doll ain't ya?  Well, he was dating one several years ago.
He did mention that one time he felt comfortable taking her outside but she left him.
He claims it was too windy.
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HighGravity 

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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012, 7:52 am |
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(davela @ Oct. 24 2012, 3:28 am)
QUOTE (Gabby @ Oct. 23 2012, 10:41 pm)
QUOTE Now, here's something new and interesting...
A dude slides onto a forum, starts by creating a post on the TPA that starts:
"i was laid off a couple of months ago and my financial situation has turned to the worse."....... make generalizations of which I can’t absolutely be certain!), but I know, intuitively, who is “real” and who is NOT “real” at all. And very few have posted bios or photos. I don’t need them. the doll doesnt disturb me as much as the motley crue shirt. What disturbs me is that he has a two year old but wants to live like a nomad on national forest land.
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buddero 

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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012, 10:26 am |
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Quote from a long ago Seinfeld episode: "I'm a man."
-------------- Reach out your hand, if your cup be empty If your cup is full, may it be again
Journal and links to refugees, backpacking, travel in Asia, photos, honky-tonk angels, other beautiful things...
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GoBlueHiker 
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(N2theWild @ Oct. 24 2012, 6:06 am)
QUOTE (ol-zeke @ Oct. 23 2012, 8:03 pm)
QUOTE As I near the age where I can draw Social Security, I find myself wondering where to spend it. Might need to go on a few more trips. LOL [/color] You could always give to the poor who you are always saying you want to help but never do. or you can be the typical greedy liberal and spend it on "more trips" and let big government ease your quilt. LOL... a quote like that says a lot more about you than it does about him, my self-styled "Christian" friend.
Knowing ol-zeke well, he's one of the more personally generous folks you'll ever know, with his money and otherwise. But if your trolling helps you compartmentalize the world in a way that allows you to sleep at night, more power to ya'.
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GoBlueHiker 
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(N2theWild @ Oct. 24 2012, 9:08 am)
QUOTE (GoBlueHiker @ Oct. 24 2012, 10:59 am)
QUOTE Knowing ol-zeke well, he's one of the more personally generous folks you'll ever know, with his money and otherwise. But if your trolling helps you compartmentalize the world in a way that allows you to sleep at night, more power to ya'. You can't have it both ways my liberal friend. He should be giving more money away if he is having to come up with ways to spend it. He's obviously not giving his fair share. You liberals all love taking other people's money. It's time to put your money where your mouth is. Pretty weak, troll. Try again.
-------------- Wealth needs more. Happiness needs less. Simplify.
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N2theWild 

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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012, 11:29 am |
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-------------- For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, (2 Timothy 4:3)
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TigerFan 

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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012, 11:51 am |
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(manlyphall @ Oct. 23 2012, 7:46 pm)
QUOTE republican, and this is me. im a proud marine, loving father of a 2 yearold boy, support gun rights and national forest preservation, believe in philanthropy, and im a tattoo convention promoter. and... im pro life. do i look like a typical republican? im not a racist thats for sure. my left sleeve was done by craig foster(african american) and my left sleeve by roman abrego(mexcian). dont judge a book by it's cover ladies and gentleman. everyone has their own political opinions. were all different. that whats makes this world awesome! You forgot the part where you claim that some of your best friends are gay.
I'm actually a little confused about why a backpacking forum newbie would need to announce their political/social beliefs.
Btw, do you backpack?
-------------- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.
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