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Aside from the big office races, MD features an oddly high number of significant ballot questions this year.  Our highlights include questions about the "dream act", gay marriage and casino funding.  The casino fight in particular has flooded our airwaves and mailboxes with out of state money.  

Are there any interesting questions on your local ballot this year?


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None this year. Last election cycle there was a question that was so poorly written that it contained 3 double-negatives. I have a chemical engineering degree with concentrations in environmental and nuclear engineering, and I couldn't understand the question. I have no idea how someone with a lower-than-normal IQ would. But I think that was the point.

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Amendment 64, whether or not to fully legalize marijuana in Colorado, and regulate it like alcohol.  It just may pass too... it's gotten strong support recently.

That's the "big headline" one here.  We'll see.


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Massacusetts has 3, but only 2 are interesting IMO.

1.) whether or not a doctor can prescribe life-ending medication to a terminally ill patient
2.) legalization of medical marijuana


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We have several, as usual.  There is an effort to: eliminate Oregon's Estate tax; build a Casino in Portland; and stop the Kicker as it applies to businesses and corporations.  (In Oregon, if income exceeds projections by 3%, the State currently has to return,kick back, the excess to the tax payers.  Citizens get some, businesses get some.) The initiative would keep the business kicker and put it in a "rainy day fund".  

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NYS did that a couple years ago, then taxed it as "income".

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We have one in SC. Should the Lieutenant Governor and Governor run on the same ticket and be elected jointly?
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We have one in SC. Should the Lieutenant Governor and Governor run on the same ticket and be elected jointly?

How is it currently done?

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They run separately, and hardly speak to each other before or afterward. In theory, we could have a republican governor and democratic LG.
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They run separately, and hardly speak to each other before or afterward. In theory, we could have a republican governor and democratic LG.

I kinda like that system.  I wish more states did it that way.

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They run separately, and hardly speak to each other before or afterward. In theory, we could have a republican governor and democratic LG.

I kinda like that system.  I wish more states did it that way.

The only problem I see is that it would be one more race that I'd have to see campaign ads for.

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They run separately, and hardly speak to each other before or afterward. In theory, we could have a republican governor and democratic LG.

I kinda like that system.  I wish more states did it that way.

I plan to vote to keep it because it's the best chance we'll ever have a democratic LG. If we had one right now, Haley would be called on the carpet for her constant mishandling of the State and maybe we wouldn't be dealing with Hacker Gate.
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What power does the LG's office have if you did have a split executive?

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They run separately, and hardly speak to each other before or afterward. In theory, we could have a republican governor and democratic LG.

What power does the LG's office have if you did have a split executive?

Tie breaker in the state senate?

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No Californians yet? Okay...this is, for better or worse (usually worse), the land of ballot initiatives. We have nearly a dozen, and about half of them are hugely consequential.

Prop 30: Tax increase to fund schools. This is a compromise measure, hammered out among the Governor and legislators; it doesn't make anyone very happy, but without it the fiscal catastophe gets much, much worse.

Prop 32: This is the worst thing on the CA ballot that doesn't rhyme with Schmitt Glomney.  Pretends to be campaign finance reform, but actually it's designed to muzzle unions while leaving corporations and individual wealthy donors free rein.

Prop 34: Ends the death penalty in California, and (if it passes) about frigging time.

Prop 36: Modifies "three strikes" law so that life sentence is imposed only if the third offense is violent or serious; also allows for re-sentencing of inmates currently serving life with a non-violent third conviction. Again, about frigging time.

Prop 37: Requires labeling of genetically modified foods. Makes sense to me.


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They run separately, and hardly speak to each other before or afterward. In theory, we could have a republican governor and democratic LG.

What power does the LG's office have if you did have a split executive?

In California, the last time Jerry Brown was Governor, the LG was a Republican named Mike Curb.  Every time Brown left the state, Curb would do everything to undermine him as acting Governor--vetoing bills, making appointments, and such. Not sure how it works in SC, though.

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They run separately, and hardly speak to each other before or afterward. In theory, we could have a republican governor and democratic LG.

What power does the LG's office have if you did have a split executive?

Tie breaker in the state senate?

That was my first guess as well, but I would assume there's more to it if they run as separate tickets.

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What power does the LG's office have if you did have a split executive?

None really, unless the Governor goes on the lam to visit his mistress in South America. Sadly the current one then had so much of his own run-ins with the law, nobody listened to him when he started asking questions about where his boss was. It took a newspaper reporter to uncover it. But a decent one could call the current on the carpet for her misdeeds.
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They run separately, and hardly speak to each other before or afterward. In theory, we could have a republican governor and democratic LG.

What power does the LG's office have if you did have a split executive?

Tie breaker in the state senate?

That was my first guess as well, but I would assume there's more to it if they run as separate tickets.

Actually there was talk of eliminating the position altogether a few years ago because it was mostly useless, until Sanford decided to hike the Appalachian Trail with his suitcase in hand.
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Hmmm. A liberal utopia has to constantly place ballot initiatives to try and solve the many problems they create to begin with.

Color me shocked.


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Hmmm. A liberal utopia has to constantly place ballot initiatives to try and solve the many problems they create to begin with.

Color me shocked.

So you're saying that liberals created the death penalty in California and now they are trying to get rid of it? Or were you just trolling again?
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Take a wild-eyed guess. :p

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I'm just trying to figure out what he gets out of it. It's not like anyone is coming along and saying, "You know that N2 really has a point. Let me reconsider my position on this."
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So you're saying that liberals created the death penalty in California and now they are trying to get rid of it? Or were you just trolling again?

Getting rid of the death penalty is a dumb idea and will create yet more problems in the future.

Perhaps another ballot initiative will be needed then too.


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San Francisco has a proposition (F) to fund a study of draining Hetch Hetchy reservoir and dismantling O'Shaughnessy Dam for the restoration of the "other Yosemite Valley".

http://www.modbee.com/2012....ng.html
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http://www.modbee.com/2012....ng.html

I voted for it. I don't think it's going to pass, though.

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Just two local initiatives to allow liquor by the drink and package sales in my little town. I voted yes on both.
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Just one local one here, it's to allow the county to continue to use a half cent of our transit tax to be diverted to road and street construction.

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WA has 3 big ones.

Mary jane for fun and use like alcohol.  Hope it passes.

Gay marriage. Hope it passes.

Charter schools allowed in the state.  Hope it fails.

We also have separate governor and lt governor.  Makes things interesting sometimes.
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