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Dennis The Menace 

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Posted on: Nov. 11 2012, 7:30 pm |
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So the right-wing like to spew this stupid narrative that moochers vote for Democrats and that the last group who would vote Democratic would be the high achievers.
Well on that note we have the following
Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States. They are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place more value than other Americans do on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success, according to a comprehensive new nationwide survey by the Pew Research Center.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-americans/
So who did Asians vote for and by how much?
Washington, DC—Asian Americans voted for President Barack Obama in enormous numbers this election, according to the Asian American Election Eve Poll, a joint project of the National Coalition for Asian Pacific American Community Development (National CAPACD) and Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund (AALDEF). While only 41% identify as Democrats, Asian American voters broke for Barack Obama by a huge margin, with 72% voting for the President and 26% for Mitt Romney. In Congressional races, 73% of Asian American voters backed Democratic candidates, while 27% backed Republicans.
http://www.asianweek.com/2012....r-obama
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hbfa 

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Posted on: Nov. 11 2012, 7:40 pm |
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Romney won the white vote.
"Even in the deepest blue states, white voters went for Romney: 53 percent in California, 52 percent in New York, 55 percent in Pennsylvania."
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Lamebeaver 
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 11:10 am |
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And what about the Samoan-Americans?
Can you say "cherry picking"?
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 12:26 pm |
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(TehipiteTom @ Nov. 12 2012, 12:25 pm)
QUOTE (Lamebeaver @ Nov. 12 2012, 8:10 am)
QUOTE And what about the Samoan-Americans?
Can you say "cherry picking"? What isn't cherry-picking is the broader point: Romney lost among every single demographic except white guys, even when the average income would otherwise suggest receptiveness to the GOP. Romney wasn't running to be President of the United States; he was running to be the President of White People. White men Tom. The women were in binders.
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TehipiteTom 

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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 12:30 pm |
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(Land Rover @ Nov. 12 2012, 9:26 am)
QUOTE (TehipiteTom @ Nov. 12 2012, 12:25 pm)
QUOTE (Lamebeaver @ Nov. 12 2012, 8:10 am)
QUOTE And what about the Samoan-Americans?
Can you say "cherry picking"? What isn't cherry-picking is the broader point: Romney lost among every single demographic except white guys, even when the average income would otherwise suggest receptiveness to the GOP. Romney wasn't running to be President of the United States; he was running to be the President of White People. White men Tom. The women were in binders. You're right--thanks for the correction.
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 1:13 pm |
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Went to my GrandDaughter's Veterans Day kindergarten program this morning.
Her school is located in a neighborhood populated mostly by Asian Americans, many of whom immigrated here in recent years.
Consequently, there were a lot of cute little faces with black hair and bright eyes, proudly singing several patriotic songs. Each had a red/white/blue bandana tied around their neck. They were all smiling and waving to family in the audience. 1 verse they sang contained the words "..America, place of my birth...".
Between songs, 4-5 would step up confidently up to the microphone with a 3-4 word sentence that expressed their pride in America. The audience was full of parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and all of us were so proud, with a lot of us trying to hide a teary eye.
I thought about how lucky our country was to have such a vibrant group of children, whose parents thought so much of this country to come here, and to bless us with these kids.
I was so proud that my granddaughter would grow up with such a group of fellow Americans. Our future looks good to me.
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Dennis The Menace 

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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 1:52 pm |
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(Lamebeaver @ Nov. 12 2012, 1:47 pm)
QUOTE (Dennis The Menace @ Nov. 12 2012, 11:35 am)
QUOTE Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States Sorry, cherry picking is the wrong phrase. How about stereotyping? "Asian Americans" come from several unique and diverse ethnic groups. Many of these groups hate each other and most have different languages and cultures. No its not stereotyping either. Stereotyping would be if I would take the fact that Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States and then extrapolate that fact into making a statements about every Asian and all Asians on an individual level which of course I didn't do
Damn. You're not good with vocabulary are you?
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Lamebeaver 
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 2:08 pm |
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I'ms sure the Korean Americans are pleased to be lumped in the same pot as the Japanese Americans.
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Dennis The Menace 

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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 2:16 pm |
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So Japanese and Koreans aren't Asian?
You still don't know what Stereotyping is
You know isn't interesting how fast Republicans will resort to political correctness when they are confronted with inconvenient facts?
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 4:29 pm |
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(Chuck D @ Nov. 12 2012, 11:39 am)
QUOTE (hbfa @ Nov. 11 2012, 7:40 pm)
QUOTE Romney won the white vote. "Even in the deepest blue states, white voters went for Romney: 53 percent in California, 52 percent in New York, 55 percent in Pennsylvania." Isnt't that stereotyping I'm sure Italian Americans really liked to lumped in with Irish Americans  I'm sure they do too. But us Irish-Americans don't want them in our clover patch.
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Lamebeaver 
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 5:18 pm |
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So Dennis, who did the poorest, most ignorant ethnic group vote for?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Dennis The Menace 

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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 5:33 pm |
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So touchy eh Lame?
So knee-jerk when facts contract the narrative of the party that you voted for?
The most ignorant without going into income, without a doubt have to be those dumb ignorant protesters.
http://forums.backpacker.com/cgi-bin....1161353
This offend you too Lame?
Is that too much of a politically correct response for you?
What knee-jerk response will respond with now?
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Lamebeaver 
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 5:42 pm |
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Same one you use Dennis....."you didn't answer my question."
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Dennis The Menace 

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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 5:51 pm |
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Well why don't you tell us what group that is then?
Give us the stats or a reputable source to prove it and then show that disproves the fact that the highest earning and highest educated racial groups voted for Democrats in Huge margins which then in turn refutes that as a refutation of the Stupid GOP narrative that only moochers vote for Democrats?
Then while you're at it tell us how those with post graduate levels of education voted for?
Its clear that Lame is in deep levels of denial and just can't accept when confronted with facts that his party is a party made largely of dimwits.
This fact hurts Lame so much that you see him in this thread asking questions that he would never ask of his fellow Republicans.
Do you think Lame would ever ask "you're lumping Russian Americans, German Americans, Polish Americans, Italian Americans, etcc..' if someone used the word "white" to describe people?
No
But he gets his undies in a bunch for me using the word Asian
Lame just can't take what this election means for HIS party.
He just can't take it, hence the pouting
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 6:36 pm |
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Demographic data, used by every government, every marketing professional and every election pollster since the dawn of time, are now "stereotypes".
Quick! Call off the census!
Well nobody expected the Losers to emerge from their bubble after the election.
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Dennis The Menace 

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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 12:14 am |
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Well actually I asked you first
Specifically
"Damn. You're not good with vocabulary are you?"
You didn't answer.
But aside from that you didn't state your criteria for measuring ignorance, aside from that, Since the purpose of the OP was to disprove a silly narrative, show how the answer to that question is relevant to disproving that silly narrative promulgated by Republicans?
The silly narrative being that high achievers don't vote Democratic and that moochers are far and away the most common Democratic voter Since the purpose of the OP was to disprove a silly narrative, show how the answer to
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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 12:12 pm |
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Dennis,
It seems the point you're trying to imply is that a particular groups monetary success and level of education has let to them overwhelmingly choose Obama.
Since you find this relevant, I would also think you would find the candidate chosen by the poorest, least educated ethnic group relevant.
So, is there a connection between education, wealth and political ideology, or isn't there?
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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 12:19 pm |
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If you want to take a pot shot at minorities, just do it. It's no secret that conservatives think the people you describe voted for Obama. The point Dennis was making is that his supporters include a lot of other people as well.
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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 12:25 pm |
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"Top Contributors
Barack Obama (D) 1 University of California $1,092,906 2 Microsoft Corp $761,343 3 Google Inc $737,055 4 US Government $627,628 5 Harvard University $602,992 Mitt Romney ® 1 Goldman Sachs $994,139 2 Bank of America $921,839 3 Morgan Stanley $827,255 4 JPMorgan Chase & Co $792,147 5 Credit Suisse Group $618,941"
"Best educated"?
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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 12:30 pm |
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(High_Sierra_Fan @ Nov. 13 2012, 9:25 am)
QUOTE " Top ContributorsBarack Obama (D) 1 University of California $1,092,906 2 Microsoft Corp $761,343 3 Google Inc $737,055 4 US Government $627,628 5 Harvard University $602,992 Mitt Romney ® 1 Goldman Sachs $994,139 2 Bank of America $921,839 3 Morgan Stanley $827,255 4 JPMorgan Chase & Co $792,147 5 Credit Suisse Group $618,941" "Best educated"?  As they say: Follow the money
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Dennis The Menace 

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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 1:39 pm |
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(Lamebeaver @ Nov. 13 2012, 12:12 pm)
QUOTE Dennis,
It seems the point you're trying to imply is that a particular groups monetary success and level of education has let to them overwhelmingly choose Obama.
Since you find this relevant, I would also think you would find the candidate chosen by the poorest, least educated ethnic group relevant.
So, is there a connection between education, wealth and political ideology, or isn't there? There is no "seems" about it. I was very very clear what my point was
From the OP
So the right-wing like to spew this stupid narrative that moochers vote for Democrats and that the last group who would vote Democratic would be the high achiever
The OP refuted that narrative
Since you can't refute my refutation of that stupid narrative and since you're a sore loser and since as a result of the fact you're a sore loser, you respond to such facts with a desperate knee-jerk response that takes the form of a strawman in regard to what motivated me to make the op which was It seems the point you're trying to imply is that a particular groups monetary success and level of education has let to them overwhelmingly choose Obama. even though I explicitly told you what the point of my post was once again which was once again
So the right-wing like to spew this stupid narrative that moochers vote for Democrats and that the last group who would vote Democratic would be the high achiever
So again I ask you
Since the purpose of the OP was to disprove a silly narrative, show how the answer to that question is relevant to disproving that silly narrative promulgated by Republicans?
The silly narrative being that high achievers don't vote Democratic and that moochers are far and away the most common Democratic voter Since the purpose of the OP was to disprove a silly narrative, show how the answer to
How much longer are you going to make an ass out of yourself once again Lame?
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Dennis The Menace 

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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 1:40 pm |
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Oh and Lame
Oh and tell me why those with post graduate degrees voted for Democrats and have been voting for Democrats by WIDE margins for sometime now?
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