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Petition to Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede
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Hmmmm...and they almost have enough signatures already. I guess this means those people are toast...
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I love irony.

Oh and all the "secessionists" had to fill out a form to create a Whitehouse.gov account?

Good luck when the United Nations black helicopters start their visits there geniuses.
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Nothing like stomping on freedom of expression and peaceful protest. And that's all petitions for secession are.

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Nothing like stomping on freedom of expression and peaceful protest. And that's all petitions for secession are.

Hey they're getting their day in the sun.

Just that if they're so heavy breathing desiring to leave why-ever not give them what they want?

Free them from the United States of America. Presuming they know what "secession" actually means I'll give you that.
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But they have to leave all their money behind....right?
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But they have to leave all their money behind....right?

That's your issue, the New Somalians will no doubt have their own currency, probably something with a nice palm tree on it?
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Actually, I see both petitions as the whining of a few people who might better spend their time on a fishing forum, or hunting, or quilting, etc...  Not much to be gained from all of these petitions, except some entertainment value.  Venting frustrations at some perceived slight is only worth so much.  

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I'll support the measure only if they grant citizenship to an equal number of illegal aliens.

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You cannot strip someone of their citizenship, someone should have checked on that.

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It don't matter. States can't secede either.

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It don't matter. States can't secede either.

It does matter, you can do one, you can't do the other. They are petitioning the government to be released from the Union. Texas v. White confirmed that this is a legitimate way to leave the Union.
It is a political stunt and stupid, but a state could be released from the Union.


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You cannot strip someone of their citizenship, someone should have checked on that.

But all those people asking to be removed from the United States citizenry (secessionists aim is discarding their citizenship is it not?) should have their request expedited: with a nice one-way ticket OUT thrown is as a warm parting gift.

Somalia is lovely this time of year. Then, were they to have a change of heart, they can get in line just like every other immigrant wannabe.
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I know that this is (hopefully) largely tongue-in-cheek, but the idea of stripping someone of their citizenship because they signed a position is one of the dumbest, most un-American political suggestions I've ever heard.
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I know that this is (hopefully) largely tongue-in-cheek, but the idea of stripping someone of their citizenship because they signed a position is one of the dumbest, most un-American political suggestions I've ever heard.

Oh I think the petition in reaction to the petition is just about all heavily steeped in irony.

Though, again, the secessionist petitioners ARE requesting they be stripped of their United States citizenship: that's what secession does after all right?

So they're getting their faces rubbed in the consequences of their stated desires: much like when I admire the Republicans like Mitt Romney who demand/pledge elimination of the Department of Energy for their courageous (though, IMHP, misguided) stand for United States unilateral nuclear disarmament: given it's the DOE that designs, maintains and oversees our entire nuclear weapons arsenal.

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Your anti-imigration views seem extreme

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Not really, Somolia is the Libertarian dream, hardly a rule to be observed, nearly infinite opportunity for success with hard work. Many of us Americans believe that there needs to be some rules to keep things from being violent, some infrastructure to promote commerce, and some culture that isn't "Old Testament" (eye for an eye). Those things require government and taxes and collectively can be described as civilization.

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Lets face it, it's all a bit of a joke, but I must say the thought of kicking out those who no longer like America because they didn't get their extremist little way is very entertaining.
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Lets face it, it's all a bit of a joke, but I must say the thought of kicking out those who no longer like America because they didn't get their extremist little way is very entertaining.

Oh no it's not "kicking out", its assisting towards their stated goal.

Much different, doing them a favor when you think about it.

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Your anti-imigration views seem extreme

Nope, just pro-line and process. A line and process the self-identified  secessionists will be at the far back of.
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True that in one way secessionists are wanting to give US citizenship but you're all missing probably THE most important point... they get to take their state with them.

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True that in one way secessionists are wanting to give US citizenship but you're all missing probably THE most important point... they get to take their state with them.

Not at those percentages of the population. Barely a decently attended rock concert.

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If a state were to secede couldn't we declare war on them and take it back with force.  We hang all the rebels for treason and confiscate their property.
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Right.  I think a number of states mentioned in the petition tried that before.  It ended badly for them if I recall.

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Not really, Somolia is the Libertarian dream, hardly a rule to be observed, nearly infinite opportunity for success with hard work. Many of us Americans believe that there needs to be some rules to keep things from being violent, some infrastructure to promote commerce, and some culture that isn't "Old Testament" (eye for an eye). Those things require government and taxes and collectively can be described as civilization.

You described an anarchist's dream, not a libertarian's.

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