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ol-zeke 
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Posted on: Nov. 25 2012, 12:33 pm |
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Since this was bound to turn political, I started it here.
Damn! What is up with the embed?
http://youtu.be/-evIyrrjTTY
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HighGravity
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Posted on: Nov. 25 2012, 1:07 pm |
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I think the embed code is not allowed in the TPA for some reason.
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Lamebeaver
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 5:02 pm |
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You're right!
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GoBlueHiker
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 5:34 pm |
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Yeah, embed doesn't work in TPA. C'est la vie.
Regarding the video, it seems chillingly accurate, even if it was meant to be farcical in its delivery. My irrelevant $.02 anyway.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 5:47 pm |
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Moral of the story: If you're gonna take the land, exterminate the existing inhabitants (or a minimum 90%). Ain't no place on Earth as peaceful as ours today. 
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ol-zeke
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 5:52 pm |
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Peace for any real length of time has proven to be a futile quest, at least since we have recorded history. That shouldn't mean we no longer try for at least a stable cease fire for however long it can last.
I posted this here as I saw it was all too accurate, at least as far as I am aware. In our own land, we wiped out some tribes, and nearly so all others. That any Native Americans exist today is through no lack of trying to exterminate them by our ancestors (at least the ones that lived here at the time).
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 6:48 pm |
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(N2theWild @ Nov. 26 2012, 5:56 pm)
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(ol-zeke @ Nov. 26 2012, 5:52 pm)
QUOTE Peace for any real length of time has proven to be a futile quest, at least since we have recorded history. Man, it's almost as if the bible is true.
Yeah, I'll agree with you on that since more people have been killed in Christ's name than any other.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 6:53 pm |
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(double cabin @ Nov. 26 2012, 3:48 pm)
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QUOTE Peace for any real length of time has proven to be a futile quest, at least since we have recorded history. Man, it's almost as if the bible is true. Yeah, I'll agree with you on that since more people have been killed in Christ's name than any other.
Untrue, methinks. The carnage produced under WWI and esp. WWII dwarfed all previous wars -- and neither was fought in Christ's name. And in our own country, what was later called 'Manifest Destiny' killed off millions !! 
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Drift Woody
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 7:55 pm |
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Jerusalem is Holy to believers of the three major monotheistic religions. They worship and pray to the same God. If they were truly faithful to God, Jerusalem would be an international city of peace and brotherhood.
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 8:43 pm |
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(N2theWild @ Nov. 26 2012, 5:56 pm)
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QUOTE Peace for any real length of time has proven to be a futile quest, at least since we have recorded history. Man, it's almost as if the bible is true.
Yeah those guys were masters of the obvious.
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Drift Woody
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(Ben2World @ Nov. 26 2012, 7:42 pm)
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QUOTE Jerusalem is Holy to believers of the three major monotheistic religions. They worship and pray to the same God. If they were truly faithful to God, Jerusalem would be an international city of peace and brotherhood. Drifty: There are many other religions in the world; heck, there are now more and more atheists! Can you name any city -- or even community -- of peace and brotherhood? 
What's your point?
Are you suggesting an equivalence between the big three monotheistic religions and the unique situation of Jerusalem ... and every other religion with atheism thrown in for good measure??
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Ben2World
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(Drift Woody @ Nov. 26 2012, 5:48 pm)
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QUOTE Jerusalem is Holy to believers of the three major monotheistic religions. They worship and pray to the same God. If they were truly faithful to God, Jerusalem would be an international city of peace and brotherhood. Drifty: There are many other religions in the world; heck, there are now more and more atheists! Can you name any city -- or even community -- of peace and brotherhood? What's your point? Are you suggesting an equivalence between the big three monotheistic religions and the unique situation of Jerusalem ... and every other religion with atheism thrown in for good measure??
I am suggesting that you seem to think that if people 'just practice' what they say they believe, then they wouldn't sin anymore and would live in total peace and love and harmony.
So obviously counter to human nature... Besides, as the saying goes, some of the meanest squabbles are 'family' squabbles!
Hey, if Buddhists practice what they believe, then they would be so selfless as to have no wants or desires -- and would attain Nirvana!
There are lots of good human beings who believe in Buddhism as there are good people who believe in Christ as there are good people who believe in no religion... but ALL have good days and bad days and there is NO city of love, peace and brotherhood anywhere on Earth.
You cannot take human nature out of the equation -- and then somehow 'fault' religion (any religion) for the absence of paradise on Earth.
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Drift Woody
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 9:01 pm |
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No, I think exactly the opposite. The faithful, if they are truly committed to worshipping God in how they live their lives and treat other human beings, need to do more than just believe.
If actual communications from a Supreme Being are the genesis of earthly religions, I think the purpose was teaching humans to act contrary to what you suggest is their nature.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 7:56 am |
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The good news is that there WILL be peace in that land
The bad news is that there WILL be peace in that land.
The antichrist will usher in a peace deal between those who have always been at war there. Unfortunately he will break that deal after a few short years. All hell will break loose. So, whenever you see peace in Israel, watch out. What follows isn't pleasant.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 9:00 am |
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Kinda hard to change course when, per the Old Testament, exterminating your enemies was standard operating procedure. Be patient until everybody gets used to the new rules.
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GoBlueHiker
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 12:56 pm |
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Obama just reached the status of antichrist. Awesome.
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N2theWild
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 12:59 pm |
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Antichrist?
Hardly.
He's incapable of pulling that off.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 6:39 pm |
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Let the record also show.... Andy Williams was a fantastic singer
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WalksWithBlackflies
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(N2theWild @ Nov. 27 2012, 12:53 pm)
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QUOTE The antichrist strikes peace deals. Got it. Indeed. He will have answers to the world's problems and be loved by the masses ...at first. It's not hard to imagine when you look at how much of a failure Obama is, yet hordes still worship the guy (look no further than members of this forum).
Agreed. It was all foretold in the Left Behind novels... a 7-year deal IIRC.
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Drift Woody
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Posted on: Nov. 28 2012, 1:12 pm |
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(Ben2World @ Nov. 28 2012, 11:28 am)
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QUOTE It's not hard to imagine when you look at how much of a failure Obama is, yet hordes still worship the guy (look no further than members of this forum). Indeed. And ditto -- sadly -- the hordes who still worship Bush & Co.
B. S.
I haven't seen members of this forum express anything amounting to "worship" for either Obama or GW Bush.
Plenty of assertions about who is/was a better/worse president and arguments defending/criticizing policies, but "worship" connotes a devotion akin to a cult of personality ... something the right is always accusing Obama supporters of in lieu of substantive argument.
The B. S. smells even worse when you consider the above-quoted exchange was in the context of N2W equating Obama with the antichrist.
So, B2W, was your "Indeed" reply intended as agreement with N2W's post?
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