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Montecresto 
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 10:02 am |
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The American Freedom Defense Initiative’s new ad. (AFDI)
Pamela Geller is at it again.
The outspoken blogger and Executive Director of the American Freedom Defense Initiative has just purchased a slew of advertising space in several subway stations and on numerous Metro-North platforms in order to display her newest anti-Islam message.
Her latest ads, shared exclusively with The Observer, will feature a panorama of the sky the moment the World Trade Center burst into flames in 2001, accompanied by a quote from the Quran that reads “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers.”
Ms. Geller’s various websites, AtlasShrugs.com, JihadWatch.org and TruthAboutQuran.com are listed on the top—making no details of the design particularly shocking (for her).
However, an MTA disclaimer taking up 25% of the ad space will be presented in conjunction with Ms. Geller’s message for the first time.
“This is a paid advertisement sponsored by American Freedom Defense Initiative. The display of this advertisement does not imply MTA’s endorsement of any views expressed,” it reads.
The MTA’s new disclaimer policy came in September of this year following an incident in which protestor Mona Eltahawy, 45, was filmed spray-painting another AFDI advertisement, which equated Muslims with savages.
The ad stated: “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.” It added, “Support Israel. Defeat Jihad,” in between two Stars of David.
http://observer.com/2012....claimer
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ol-zeke
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 11:09 am |
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I cannot tell if you post articles that you happen to agree with, or just find provocative. This morning you have started 3 topics, each 6 minutes later than the previous. This shows a lack of real conviction and you added no thoughts of your own. It is as if you are reading your newspaper and speaking to us like a partner, "Now here is an interesting article on (such and such). I won't tell you what I think is so interesting until you have read it and we can hash it out over a beer." Initializing discussion is a good thing, but if you posted what you found interesting in these finds we could better see where you are going with it. Perhaps.
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Montecresto
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 11:18 am |
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Too early for a beer, lets do coffee. The ads I find unnecessarily provocative and offensive, as I do much of US foreign policy with Muslim nations.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 12:58 pm |
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Ads like this show just how provincial some of us Americans are. Amazing the country with one of the most educated people can still be so unknowing ...
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High_Sierra_Fan
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 1:17 pm |
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Oh I expect the woman who set those up is VERY "knowing".
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 1:29 pm |
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Yep. Likewise, Ahmadinejad knows tons of facts too. And still a fool.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 1:59 pm |
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(High_Sierra_Fan @ Dec. 11 2012, 10:46 am)
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QUOTE Yep. Likewise, Ahmadinejad knows tons of facts too. And still a fool. i dont see underestimating people like that as "fools" or merely ignorant, they have intentions they mean to carry out. Ex. : Bush dismissed bin Laden as a "fly" he couldn't bother to swat. For all his unknowing and foolish ways bin Laden and his cohorts had impact. They knew what they were doing, as I expect so does this woman.
Convictions can be based on ignorance -- willful or otherwise. And no one here is saying fools can't be leaders. So long as sheep abound, they most certainly can. And their very success reflects badly on society at large -- which goes back to my initial post.
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High_Sierra_Fan
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 2:03 pm |
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Yes I guess I was attempting to differentiate an "accidental" straying into offense and provocation versus a deliberate act such as the subway ads.
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 10:12 pm |
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are you allowed to post anti semetic ads in the subway as well?If not ,why?Its amazing that this garbage is allowed in NYC of all places.
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 7:29 am |
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So we need to ignore radical Islam so we do not offend peaceful Islam
Pity we are not equally tolerant of all religious views
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High_Sierra_Fan
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 1:34 pm |
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(Ben2World @ Dec. 12 2012, 9:52 am)
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QUOTE So we need to ignore radical Islam so we do not offend peaceful Islam
Pity we are not equally tolerant of all religious views I think we have adequate laws to deal with terrorism -- if and when an act of terrorism occurs, it is dealt with swiftly and forcefully. As for radical ads and radical (but peaceful) demonstrations, sometimes, it is best to ignore them. Imagine a crowd of millions every time the KKK marches. Talk about giving the cause oxygen!
Not if those millions are very obviously all in disagreement with the little parade.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 3:00 pm |
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(High_Sierra_Fan @ Dec. 12 2012, 10:34 am)
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QUOTE So we need to ignore radical Islam so we do not offend peaceful Islam
Pity we are not equally tolerant of all religious views I think we have adequate laws to deal with terrorism -- if and when an act of terrorism occurs, it is dealt with swiftly and forcefully. As for radical ads and radical (but peaceful) demonstrations, sometimes, it is best to ignore them. Imagine a crowd of millions every time the KKK marches. Talk about giving the cause oxygen! Not if those millions are very obviously all in disagreement with the little parade.
I don't know... whatever "church" that keeps protesting at the funerals of our fallen soldiers... bet they would have quit a lot sooner if folks (and the media) will just stop paying them any attention.
Some people crave martyrdom. You know, OMG, millions are protesting against me... I must keep up the fight. Extremism is seldom rational.
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High_Sierra_Fan
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 3:06 pm |
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Oh on media I would totally agree, the counter-protesters (let alone the Hells Angels...) that show up now don't add oxygen to the "church's" point as I see it.
Though I do see your point on counterprotests feeding that martyr sense cults seem to build upon.
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