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Montecresto 
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 8:43 am |
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The prospect of a renewed assault weapons ban in the wake of the Connecticut school massacre has set of a round of buying, as thousands of Americans head to their local gun store to secure the popular AR-15 -- the model used by the school gunman -- before potential government prohibitions on their purchase.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politic....PX0cdVH
All the talk about gun bans, restrictions, confiscations seems to be having the opposite desired effect!
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BillBab
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 9:20 am |
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AR-15,s upper receiver groups, magazines.....all out of stock everywhere
A very good investment...I am thinking of taking out a 401K loan if I can find some to buy. 
They will not depreciate....and if an AWB passes they will easily double in price
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Bass
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 10:10 am |
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Unfortunately, this is why an assault weapon ban will never really work.
Americans have been conditioned to see that supposedly innocent laws, like the seizure laws designed to seize the profits from drug dealers, seem to always get corrupted by police. Police now routinely seize "large amounts of cash" ( anything over $100 is now considered a large amount of cash by the courts - inflation ) from out-of-state travelers during random traffic stops.
From Policing For Profit:
QUOTE Bates said that he was right to take the money because “he couldn’t prove it was legitimate.” That of course flips the normal presumption under criminal law, but it is an example of how police powers have increased in this country.
So why should gun owners trust that this proposed assault weapon ban won't be expanded by police so that the definition of "assault weapon" includes your grandfather's old double barreled hunting shotgun?
The history of gun laws in the US has been just that. Well-meaning, common sense, regulations end up being perverted to snare the unsuspecting.
So just the TALK of an assault weapon ban has people running to gun stores. They have seen what REALLY happens.
And IF the assault weapon ban becomes law, there will be plenty of assault guns smuggled into the US along with illegal guns. The same people who are rushing to buy guns now will provide a market for drug smugglers/gun smugglers.
Law abiding gun owners are right to be wary. They know that the REAL agenda is harass them and make it impossible, or at least very difficult, for them to enjoy their shooting sport.
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hbfa
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 11:24 am |
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Yes, it's the gun and ammo dealers that always seem to profit from tragedy and fear.
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wwwest
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 1:48 pm |
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The good news there is that most of the buyers are paranoid gun nuts who already have a closet full of guns.
But it does emphasize to what an extreme extent America is a culture of violence.
At least the killing of 20 first graders has managed to shut up the NRA for the moment. They have to rely upon their well trained, brainwashed members to carry the message until this latest atrocity dies down somewhat before beginning to lobby in public again.
I am sure they are trying to hold Congress Critters feet to the fire in private though.
It must hurt to see some of their A+ Critters on TV calling for gun control, neh?
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Marmotstew
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 1:54 pm |
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People buying guns out of fear. More afraid people with guns equals more stupidity, paranoia and most likely more gun deaths
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Land Rover
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 1:56 pm |
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So we can safely say this is more blood on conservative hands after the let the last ban expire.
No, really, they are good god-fearing people.
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wwwest
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:04 pm |
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I just wish they were less god fearing and more involved with long term survival of the species, under the laws of the universe.
But, then, evolution has always been a very messy process.
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Land Rover
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:15 pm |
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(Tuffy2toes @ Dec. 18 2012, 2:12 pm)
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(wwwest @ Dec. 18 2012, 1:48 pm)
QUOTE The good news there is that most of the buyers are paranoid gun nuts who already have a closet full of guns.
But it does emphasize to what an extreme extent America is a culture of violence.
At least the killing of 20 first graders has managed to shut up the NRA for the moment. They have to rely upon their well trained, brainwashed members to carry the message until this latest atrocity dies down somewhat before beginning to lobby in public again.
I am sure they are trying to hold Congress Critters feet to the fire in private though.
It must hurt to see some of their A+ Critters on TV calling for gun control, neh? False for me! I only own a couple of hunting shotguns right now, but I just ordered two Bushmaster rifles today just like the ones used in Sandy hook with 5 magazines. Nice try!
That that Tuffy - makes you a pretty sad individual. I have nothing but pity for you in what must be a sad little life.
Of course it's probably not true - and designed to get a reaction, either way the same applies.
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Land Rover
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:20 pm |
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(Tuffy2toes @ Dec. 18 2012, 2:18 pm)
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QUOTE I just wish they were less god fearing and more involved with long term survival of the species, under the laws of the universe.
But, then, evolution has always been a very messy process. I'm an athiest and I'm buying two Bushmaster rifles so in case some nut like the Sandy Hook murder comes near me and my family, he will lose. That way the long term survival of humanity will stand a better chance without a mass murderer like that being around. How's that for becoming involved? Yes, evolution is messy. Thats why there are animals, bugs, vultures and the like to clean up the mess!
If Darwin was right Tuffy - you're in serious trouble dude.
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Land Rover
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:21 pm |
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Actually, when do they arrive - I'd like to get my bets down for an early contender for the 2013 award?
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Tuffy2toes
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:22 pm |
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(Land Rover @ Dec. 18 2012, 2:15 pm)
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(wwwest @ Dec. 18 2012, 1:48 pm)
QUOTE The good news there is that most of the buyers are paranoid gun nuts who already have a closet full of guns.
But it does emphasize to what an extreme extent America is a culture of violence.
At least the killing of 20 first graders has managed to shut up the NRA for the moment. They have to rely upon their well trained, brainwashed members to carry the message until this latest atrocity dies down somewhat before beginning to lobby in public again.
I am sure they are trying to hold Congress Critters feet to the fire in private though.
It must hurt to see some of their A+ Critters on TV calling for gun control, neh? False for me! I only own a couple of hunting shotguns right now, but I just ordered two Bushmaster rifles today just like the ones used in Sandy hook with 5 magazines. Nice try! That that Tuffy - makes you a pretty sad individual. I have nothing but pity for you in what must be a sad little life. Of course it's probably not true - and designed to get a reaction, either way the same applies.
No problem with your opinion Land, no matter how delusional it is. See what guns have brought us and you? Your freedom to spout nonsense and crap like you just did.
Send me a PM and I will send some pics of my new rifles tomorrow to you!
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:23 pm |
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Well, good luck.
Hope your kid who is fed up with living in a culture of violence doesn't decide to shoot you in the head while you are sleeping, with one of your Bushmasters!
Although, that might improve the gene pool.
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Marmotstew
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:25 pm |
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(Tuffy2toes @ Dec. 18 2012, 2:18 pm)
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QUOTE I just wish they were less god fearing and more involved with long term survival of the species, under the laws of the universe.
But, then, evolution has always been a very messy process. I'm an athiest and I'm buying two Bushmaster rifles so in case some nut like the Sandy Hook murder comes near me and my family, he will lose. That way the long term survival of humanity will stand a better chance without a mass murderer like that being around. How's that for becoming involved? Yes, evolution is messy. Thats why there are animals, bugs, vultures and the like to clean up the mess!
Have you bought a helmet in case a piano falls on your head? A lightning rod for your home? Installed air bags on your fridge in case someone tries to get the cookies on top and fridge falls?
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Land Rover
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:25 pm |
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(Tuffy2toes @ Dec. 18 2012, 2:22 pm)
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(wwwest @ Dec. 18 2012, 1:48 pm)
QUOTE The good news there is that most of the buyers are paranoid gun nuts who already have a closet full of guns.
But it does emphasize to what an extreme extent America is a culture of violence.
At least the killing of 20 first graders has managed to shut up the NRA for the moment. They have to rely upon their well trained, brainwashed members to carry the message until this latest atrocity dies down somewhat before beginning to lobby in public again.
I am sure they are trying to hold Congress Critters feet to the fire in private though.
It must hurt to see some of their A+ Critters on TV calling for gun control, neh? False for me! I only own a couple of hunting shotguns right now, but I just ordered two Bushmaster rifles today just like the ones used in Sandy hook with 5 magazines. Nice try! That that Tuffy - makes you a pretty sad individual. I have nothing but pity for you in what must be a sad little life. Of course it's probably not true - and designed to get a reaction, either way the same applies. No problem with your opinion Land, no matter how delusional it is. See what guns have brought us and you? Your freedom to spout nonsense and crap like you just did. Send me a PM and I will send some pics of my new rifles tomorrow to you!
How's that work then Mr Darwin? Can you give me an example, say in the last 100 years, where widespread ownership of combat weapons in the hands of the public has protected my Freedom? Perhaps I'm missing something here. Educate me oh wise one.
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Land Rover
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:28 pm |
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This is the thing Tuffy - you come on this site spouting off that you're gonna buy a couple of Bushmasters - largely I assume to goad what you see as a few anti-gun nuts - and all you do is make yourself look like an idiot and provide a prime case as to why we should have tighter restrictions. People like you are the problem and the exact reason why responsible gun owner and assault rifle ownership are mutually exclusive terms.
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Tuffy2toes
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012, 2:31 pm |
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(wwwest @ Dec. 18 2012, 2:23 pm)
QUOTE Well, good luck.
Hope your kid who is fed up with living in a culture of violence doesn't decide to shoot you in the head while you are sleeping, with one of your Bushmasters!
Although, that might improve the gene pool.
Thanks, and I hope you and your family isn't set upon by armed thugs while your out buying christmas presents while your strolling around feeling good being disarmed. Or while your children are "safe" in school, or watching a movie in the mall, or hiking on a trail, or attending court or trying to calm to arguing "friends" and on and on and on and on.
You sound like the type that will just accept the fact that if you and your loved ones are injured or killed, it's "Gods plan".
Perfect!!!
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Tuffy2toes
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(hbfa @ Dec. 18 2012, 2:25 pm)
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QUOTE I'm buying two Bushmaster rifles so in case some nut like the Sandy Hook murder comes near me and my family, he will lose. That way the long term survival of humanity will stand a better chance without a mass murderer like that being around. How's that for becoming involved? Sounds like something Adam Lanza's mom might've said prior to the morning of December 14, 2012.
Maybe you should ask the parents of the dead children if they wanted me in the hallways of the school with my arms and 5 mags when Mr. Happy showed up!
I'm a real good shot!
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Land Rover
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Are you planning on taking them everywhere with you then tuffy? Not worried the SWAT team will take you down if you turn up on the wrong day or at the wrong school? Real smart there big guy.
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hbfa
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(Tuffy2toes @ Dec. 18 2012, 11:34 am)
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QUOTE I'm buying two Bushmaster rifles so in case some nut like the Sandy Hook murder comes near me and my family, he will lose. That way the long term survival of humanity will stand a better chance without a mass murderer like that being around. How's that for becoming involved? Sounds like something Adam Lanza's mom might've said prior to the morning of December 14, 2012. Maybe you should ask the parents of the dead children if they wanted me in the hallways of the school with my arms and 5 mags when Mr. Happy showed up! I'm a real good shot!
Sure thing Deputy Fife
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Land Rover
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Can we not at least force people to take some kind of IQ test before we allow them in the gun store?
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Tuffy2toes
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(Land Rover @ Dec. 18 2012, 2:25 pm)
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QUOTE The good news there is that most of the buyers are paranoid gun nuts who already have a closet full of guns.
But it does emphasize to what an extreme extent America is a culture of violence.
At least the killing of 20 first graders has managed to shut up the NRA for the moment. They have to rely upon their well trained, brainwashed members to carry the message until this latest atrocity dies down somewhat before beginning to lobby in public again.
I am sure they are trying to hold Congress Critters feet to the fire in private though.
It must hurt to see some of their A+ Critters on TV calling for gun control, neh? False for me! I only own a couple of hunting shotguns right now, but I just ordered two Bushmaster rifles today just like the ones used in Sandy hook with 5 magazines. Nice try! That that Tuffy - makes you a pretty sad individual. I have nothing but pity for you in what must be a sad little life. Of course it's probably not true - and designed to get a reaction, either way the same applies. No problem with your opinion Land, no matter how delusional it is. See what guns have brought us and you? Your freedom to spout nonsense and crap like you just did. Send me a PM and I will send some pics of my new rifles tomorrow to you! How's that work then Mr Darwin? Can you give me an example, say in the last 100 years, where widespread ownership of combat weapons in the hands of the public has protected my Freedom? Perhaps I'm missing something here. Educate me oh wise one.
What's the old saying?
Give him the rope and let him hang himself?
Statement from Yamamoto about invading the USA after Pearl Harbor;
"You can not invade mainland US, because there is a rifle behind every door"
Let me know if you need anymore "enlightment"! 
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QUOTE I'm buying two Bushmaster rifles so in case some nut like the Sandy Hook murder comes near me and my family, he will lose. That way the long term survival of humanity will stand a better chance without a mass murderer like that being around. How's that for becoming involved? Sounds like something Adam Lanza's mom might've said prior to the morning of December 14, 2012. Maybe you should ask the parents of the dead children if they wanted me in the hallways of the school with my arms and 5 mags when Mr. Happy showed up! I'm a real good shot! Sure thing Deputy Fife
No problem hippy peace love dude man!
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