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Camera seized and man charged

He had been filming from about 30 feet away, he said. Henderson said deputies gave him no warning before Muellner took his camera.

His is the latest in a string of cases nationwide involving citizens who record police activities.


Since small, concealable cameras are cheap and easily available, I can't see why anyone would risk police seizing their camera and charging them with some bogus charges!
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What an odd hobby, videoing cops?

But odd or not from the description he was totally within his rights and that HIPAA nonsense reveals the deputy for an idiot with an attitude (and a citation pad which is a bad combination).

Oh but the big visible camera is a part of the "In your face" game bring played here. One the officer should have had the intelligence to decline to play.
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That's what he gets for acting like a "buttinski".  Hahaha, is that an official term in that office?

"How was your shift?"
"Not bad, couple citations, one arrest, and several buttinski's required detaining"

In all seriousness, I hope the guy stands by his "I won't accept a plea deal, if offered".  Nothing against law enforcement in particular, but 2012 just made me weary of abuses from people in power.  It's time for this crap to stop, seriously...


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Walking While Buttinski'ing?

Someone needs to clue the deputy in that's not what WWB stands for.....
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Actually, the big dollar law suits against the city is what will get this power trip under control.

The courts have been pretty consistent that openly videotaping police actions is lawful.  Doing it secretly might not be, in some jurisdictions.

State laws are already being passed to allow it, and many police departments are putting their own officer on video to protect them from false claims violence against citizens.  Of course, that does require a change of attitude on the part of their officers!


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Thuggish police behavior?  Yeah, maybe big-dollar lawsuits is the way to stop this... but that also means that we the citizens are the ones paying!  For police who are found guilty of abusing their power -- I'd rather see personal  consequences -- meaning money out of their  pockets -- not ours!

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Sh!t rolls downhill.  When the city pays, the police officers pay.

And remember, it is the people who elected city officials who allow this kind of crap to go on.  Vote for city officials who will do something about it.


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Sh!t rolls downhill.  When the city pays, the police officers pay.

And remember, it is the people who elected city officials who allow this kind of crap to go on.  Vote for city officials who will do something about it.

That's almost like saying when a corporation pays, its officers pay.  Not necessarily.

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For police who are found guilty of abusing their power -- I'd rather see personal  consequences -- meaning money out of their  pockets -- not ours!


+1 !!!!

I would advocate the same for officers of corporations who do not really care if the corporation pays a big fine because they know that they will still get their stock option package - that the shareholders will pay.

It is time for lawmakers to rethink the existing laws shielding of police and corporate officers from lawsuits and punitive damages.

Until then, more citizens carrying small hidden cameras is sure to help. If something is not done, police will wake up one day and discover that they are hated by the majority of the citizens - and voters - that they are supposedly protecting.
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Naw, we don't want to go there, and there is no need.

A little accountability, and just a smidgeon of common sense, will correct the problem, to the extent there really is a problem.  I think the practice of putting video in the patrol cars and on helmets is spreading much faster than thuggish behavior by a few bad apples.

It is always better when the officers live in the communities they serve, too.  Another kind of accountability that works well.


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Now if we could only get them to stop lying, especially on official reports.

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Now if we could only get them to stop lying, especially on official reports.

It is true that they sometimes lie, but so do all human beans.  It has more impact when they lie on their reports, but the courts and juries can sometimes correct that little problem.

Most officers are terrible liers on the stand, and the judge and jury often pick up on that.  Plus, once a DDA finds out that an officer lies, their credibility is shot forever.


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