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HighGravity 
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Posted on: Jan. 18 2013, 1:44 pm |
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TehipiteTom
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Posted on: Jan. 18 2013, 4:56 pm |
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(HighGravity @ Jan. 18 2013, 10:44 am)
QUOTE wrong forum
Okay then, let's make it political: why is this imaginary dead girl a bigger deal than a real dead girl?
Here's some backstory:
QUOTE Two years ago, Lizzy Seeberg, a 19-year-old freshman at Saint Mary’s College, across the street from Notre Dame, committed suicide after accusing an ND football player of sexually assaulting her. The friend Lizzy told immediately afterward said she was crying so hard she was having trouble breathing.
Yet after Lizzy went to the police, a friend of the player’s sent her a series of texts that frightened her as much as anything that had happened in the player’s dorm room. “Don’t do anything you would regret,” one of them said. “Messing with Notre Dame football is a bad idea.”
At the time of her death, 10 days after reporting the attack to campus police, who have jurisdiction for even the most serious crimes on school property, investigators still had not interviewed the accused. It took them five more days after she died to get around to that, though they investigated Lizzy herself quite thoroughly, even debriefing a former roommate at another school with whom she’d clashed.
Six months later — after the story had become national news — Notre Dame did convene a closed-door disciplinary hearing. The player testified that until he actually met with police, he hadn’t even known why they wanted to speak to him — though his buddy who’d warned Lizzy not to mess with Notre Dame football had spoken to investigators 13 days earlier. He was found “not responsible,” and never sat out a game.
Henneberger goes on to recount a second case in which an alleged rape victim was intimidated into dropping charges. On the face of it, it sure looks like a total breakdown of accountability.
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EastieTrekker
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TehipiteTom - Have you heard about the Steubenville rape case? Along similar lines, but the whole case is still under investigation. The details that have come out so far are absolutely ghastly...
Small football town in Ohio. A 16yo girl from across the state line in WV, was allegedly convinced to come to a party by her ex. While it's not clear if she was drugged or not, she clearly became incredibly intoxicated at one point, and was raped by at least 2, 16yo boys and filmed (pictures and video) by at least 3 others (who are now off the hook after making a plea deal with the original prosecuting attorney - who now stepped down as she is a mother of one of the football players and apparently her home hosted one of the parties this poor girl was dragged to).
To make it all worse - the boys who snapped photo's posted them to Twitter, along with some nasty, disturbing comments. There's a photo of her being carried around by her wrists and ankles. Worst thing is, she didn't even know what happened until it started spreading on social media.
Anyways, it just gets worse and worse. Both cases demonstrate the high value placed on athletes (cover up, lack of prosecution) and are showing evidence that the victim was dissuaded from taking any action. Both are examples of a truly horrifying response by those with the power to protect the victim.
What's wrong with these people?
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HighGravity
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Posted on: Jan. 18 2013, 5:50 pm |
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(EastieTrekker @ Jan. 18 2013, 5:31 pm)
QUOTE TehipiteTom - Have you heard about the Steubenville rape case? Along similar lines, but the whole case is still under investigation. The details that have come out so far are absolutely ghastly...
Small football town in Ohio. A 16yo girl from across the state line in WV, was allegedly convinced to come to a party by her ex. While it's not clear if she was drugged or not, she clearly became incredibly intoxicated at one point, and was raped by at least 2, 16yo boys and filmed (pictures and video) by at least 3 others (who are now off the hook after making a plea deal with the original prosecuting attorney - who now stepped down as she is a mother of one of the football players and apparently her home hosted one of the parties this poor girl was dragged to).
To make it all worse - the boys who snapped photo's posted them to Twitter, along with some nasty, disturbing comments. There's a photo of her being carried around by her wrists and ankles. Worst thing is, she didn't even know what happened until it started spreading on social media.
Anyways, it just gets worse and worse. Both cases demonstrate the high value placed on athletes (cover up, lack of prosecution) and are showing evidence that the victim was dissuaded from taking any action. Both are examples of a truly horrifying response by those with the power to protect the victim.
What's wrong with these people?
And the only reason that hasn't been swept under the rug is because computer hackers broke into state computers and released the evidence to the public.
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TehipiteTom
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Posted on: Jan. 18 2013, 6:26 pm |
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(EastieTrekker @ Jan. 18 2013, 2:31 pm)
QUOTE TehipiteTom - Have you heard about the Steubenville rape case? Along similar lines, but the whole case is still under investigation. The details that have come out so far are absolutely ghastly...
Small football town in Ohio. A 16yo girl from across the state line in WV, was allegedly convinced to come to a party by her ex. While it's not clear if she was drugged or not, she clearly became incredibly intoxicated at one point, and was raped by at least 2, 16yo boys and filmed (pictures and video) by at least 3 others (who are now off the hook after making a plea deal with the original prosecuting attorney - who now stepped down as she is a mother of one of the football players and apparently her home hosted one of the parties this poor girl was dragged to).
To make it all worse - the boys who snapped photo's posted them to Twitter, along with some nasty, disturbing comments. There's a photo of her being carried around by her wrists and ankles. Worst thing is, she didn't even know what happened until it started spreading on social media.
Anyways, it just gets worse and worse. Both cases demonstrate the high value placed on athletes (cover up, lack of prosecution) and are showing evidence that the victim was dissuaded from taking any action. Both are examples of a truly horrifying response by those with the power to protect the victim.
What's wrong with these people?
Yeah, Steubenville is another horrifying case, and they have a lot in common.
Look at how long they all covered for Jerry Sandusky...is it any wonder people with a vested interest in the success of their sports program have no interest in helping the victim?
Despicable.
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