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Caught in freezing rain, Illinois man, 2 sons die while hiking on remote trail in Missouri
Published January 14, 2013
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Searchers found the soaked bodies of 36-year-old David Decareaux and the two boys — ages 8 and 10 — on the Ozark Trail on Sunday, a day after Decareaux declined a passerby's offer of a ride back to the lodge where they had been staying, Reynolds County Sheriff Tom Volner said. The cold had killed them, he said.

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Poor dad.  Poor kids.  Poor, poor mom.  :(

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Once was at a seminar where it was mentioned the average air temp for a hypothermia fatality in the PNW was 55F.

Few tale note of the fact when it's that temperature it's forty-three degrees colder than their body temperature. Then people get wet and that difference starts to narrow as they cool....

Very sad. That they were offered a ride out to safety is tragic.
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Once was at a seminar where it was mentioned the average air temp for a hypothermia fatality in the PNW was 55F.

Few tale note of the fact when it's that temperature it's forty-three degrees colder than their body temperature. Then people get wet and that difference starts to narrow as they cool....

Very sad. That they were offered a ride out to safety is tragic.

That's an alarming statistic. I've hiked in colder rain, never had a problem, other than just the normal irritation of hiking in the rain. A bum report indeed. The two boys probably were hoping dad would accept the ride back.

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Once was at a seminar where it was mentioned the average air temp for a hypothermia fatality in the PNW was 55F.

Few tale note of the fact when it's that temperature it's forty-three degrees colder than their body temperature. Then people get wet and that difference starts to narrow as they cool....

Very sad. That they were offered a ride out to safety is tragic.

That's an alarming statistic. I've hiked in colder rain, never had a problem, other than just the normal irritation of hiking in the rain. A bum report indeed. The two boys probably were hoping dad would accept the ride back.

It's likely the seduction of assuming the conditions are non-threatening so people get lulled into complacency (when the temp is pushing zero no-one goes out in a t-shirt eh?). One case study was searchers finding a corpse with hot thermoses of coffee and soup still in the pack.... First thing that happens in mild hypothermia is the victim's judgement simply goes away.... People just aren't scared if it's in the 50's. Then they get wet...
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Yeah, I hear ya, just didn't know there was any concern at those temperatures. I'm glad to know that.

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