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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. –  Police want lawmakers to make an exception for crowd control in a bill that bans the use of drones for law and code enforcement, but the measure won committee approval Wednesday without that change.
The request prompted the bill's sponsor to ask what if King George had sent a drone to the Boston Tea Party.


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Come on! Lets see more.

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Bump!

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Fail post? Failed post! What's the matter Raz, you disagree with them?

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Law enforcement has been using manned aircraft for surveillance for decades.
Why all the hubbub over unmanned doing the same thing?
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Law enforcement has been using manned aircraft for surveillance for decades.
Why all the hubbub over unmanned doing the same thing?

I can see a lot of positives in adding drones to LE's arsenal of tools.  I think there is also an element of distrust -- not in the technology -- but in their usage by LE agencies.

I can see it all starting off conservatively -- drones playing a supplementary, surveillance-oriented role.

I can also picture a eventual scenario where violent and extremely well-armed criminals have pinned down LE units -- causing casualties -- and suddenly a drone appears -- kills the criminals -- and saving the day, to the great relief of everyone.  And all of that beamed to our monitors and TV's.

I can see LE agencies across the nation convinced of the need to arm their drones -- giving themselves a clear edge over violent criminals.  And of course, success breeds further success.

I can then see using armed drones becoming an everyday routine -- and drones firing at alleged criminals becoming almost as common.

The problem?  While drones can certainly save lives -- operating drones hundreds of miles away make the operators physically and emotionally detached from the scene.  And this can cut both ways.  Witness the 'regular' reports of our drones killing Afghans and Pakistani villagers by mistake!

But once the pandora's box is opened, it will be hard to close up.  Once these are made popularly available to LE -- it will be near impossible to take back.  LE would rather apologize for honest mistakes then give up an awesome tool like drones -- or later, armed drones.

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Sounds like the plot of a cheesy movie. Who plays the part of the evil Chief of Police with the motto of "Blow 'em all up, let God sort 'em out"?

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Oh, yeah, I agree.  Let's get rid of all those modern tools.  No more computers, no more automobiles.  Just six shooters and buggy whips.

We'll be safe then!  LOL
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Law enforcement has been using manned aircraft for surveillance for decades.
Why all the hubbub over unmanned doing the same thing?

The issue I find puzzling: my conclusion if simple technophobia.

That and confusing and conflating armed unmanned aircraft with the simple surveillance ones. Like every nuclear power plant must be a Hiroshima just waiting to mushroom cloud....
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Same folks who run out and buy more guns and more ammo every time there is a move toward sensible gun controls.  Haven't used the one they have, but paranoia rules all in their world.

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Law enforcement has been using manned aircraft for surveillance for decades.
Why all the hubbub over unmanned doing the same thing?

The potential for abuse should be obvious. Some drones are very small. No expectation of privacy. Planes and helicopters are quite visible. Otherwise, read what politicians are saying about it to know. Town hall meetings are being held as well, and people are speaking out about privacy concerns. Also aircraft is expensive to use and LE typically use it for specifically developing events, then they are parked. Drone operation will be so economical that police departments could keep them up, snooping, 7/24.

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