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WalksWithBlackflies 
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 9:04 am |
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Blow, baby, blow...
Spain’s monthly wind-power output exceeded 6 terawatt-hours for the first time this month, enough to light most households, the nation’s wind lobby group said.
The milestone was passed yesterday from 3 p.m. to 4 p.m. local time, the Spanish Wind Energy Association said today in an e-mailed statement, citing data from Red Electrica de Espana, the grid operator.
“Since Nov. 1, wind has been the top technology in the electrical system,” the lobby group said in a blog posting. “The last time any technology exceeded 6 terawatt-hours of monthly generation was in 2010, when it was combined-cycle gas turbines.”
Wind has accounted for more power than any other energy source in the three months ending tomorrow, a first for any quarter, the wind association said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news....me.html
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Montecresto
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 9:17 am |
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America is slipping in most all categories.
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 10:08 am |
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Right on! for Espana!
So where are all those who repeatedly told us this was not possible?
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High_Sierra_Fan
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 11:49 am |
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Don Quixote would be so disappointed!
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Chuck D
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 11:58 am |
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Yet the US produces much more power from wind than Spain does, we just use a lot more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_the_United_States
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 12:24 pm |
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In addition to the fossil fuel lobbies acting contrary to the interests of the public sadly in this country it is more often than not NIMBY
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 1:24 pm |
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But but how are you supposed to drive a big rig when it isn't windy? Or think about all the birds and horses that get chopped up in the blades?
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 2:05 pm |
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I think that is groundhogs, not horses. Except maybe unicorns. heh
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Chuck D
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 5:33 pm |
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(Ben2World @ Feb. 08 2013, 2:07 pm)
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QUOTE Right on! for Espana!
So where are all those who repeatedly told us this was not possible? It's not possible because we need to keep spending more on defense than the next 17 highest-spending countries combined. And we need to buy fleets of drones for our LE. What? You think money grow on trees?
So Ben you want the government to build all the new wind farms, solar arrays, etc. ?
How much of your portfolio is invested in green energy?
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Ben2World
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(Chuck D @ Feb. 08 2013, 2:33 pm)
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QUOTE Right on! for Espana!
So where are all those who repeatedly told us this was not possible? It's not possible because we need to keep spending more on defense than the next 17 highest-spending countries combined. And we need to buy fleets of drones for our LE. What? You think money grow on trees? So Ben you want the government to build all the new wind farms, solar arrays, etc. ? How much of your portfolio is invested in green energy?
Mostly, I want our government to stop its war mongering and bring defense spending to a saner level -- which ought to be just a fraction of what it is today. Maybe we can "just" spend more than China and Russia and Saudi Arabia combined -- instead of the total of 17 countries? 
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Chuck D
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(Ben2World @ Feb. 08 2013, 6:30 pm)
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QUOTE Right on! for Espana!
So where are all those who repeatedly told us this was not possible? It's not possible because we need to keep spending more on defense than the next 17 highest-spending countries combined. And we need to buy fleets of drones for our LE. What? You think money grow on trees? So Ben you want the government to build all the new wind farms, solar arrays, etc. ? How much of your portfolio is invested in green energy? Mostly, I want our government to stop its war mongering and bring defense spending to a saner level -- which ought to be just a fraction of what it is today. Maybe we can "just" spend more than China and Russia and Saudi Arabia combined -- instead of the total of 17 countries?
And what does that have to do with wind power.
We know your feelings about defense spending, you bring it up in almost every thread
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2013, 11:44 pm |
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Potential meanings for acronym “LE”:
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1. LE postcode area, Leicester, United Kingdom
2. ISO 3166-2:IT code for the Province of Lecce, Italy
3. Lake Elsinore, California
4. Lê, a common Vietnamese surname
5. Le, the romanization of several Chinese surnames
6. le is a definite article in French and Italian
7. le is an indirect object pronoun in Spanish
8. LE for Livre égyptienne (Egyptian pound), the currency of Egypt
9. le for lóero, Hungarian for "horsepower"
10. Linear Executable, an OS/2 file format
11. LE editor, a simple text editor for unix-like operating systems
12. Leadwerks Engine, 3D game engine
13. "Less than or equal to", an inequality operator used in programming languages
14. Abellio Greater Anglia, National Rail abbreviation of British train operating company
15. Luxury edition, naming designator for high-end automobiles
16. Long Éireannach (LÉ), ship prefix for Irish vessels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LE
I know you guys are doing this since I complained about “MIC” and “Gang of 2”, but really… it’s the flippin’ 15th entry of 16 in the list (assuming that that’s what is meant).
I guess I simply don’t spend enough time on the Internet.
But, to the subject at hand, there is a hell of a lot of activity going on out there on this front: Norway was, IIRC, the leader in this tech only a few years ago. Then Germany started gaining, but China passed both up by applying government incentives directly to stimulate it (and China apparently has the largest supply or "rare earth" compounds in the world, making it easier for them to make the required magnet systems), and now we learn that Spain is "ramping up".
We are definitely falling behind on this, and I guess my question would be: What is the primary reason for this? Who's most responsible? Business? Big oil? Religion? Government? (Republicans or Democrats?) I have my own version of an answer, severely tilted (as usual) by my own preconceptions and biases...
Whaddya think?
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Ben2World
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So where are all those who repeatedly told us this was not possible? It's not possible because we need to keep spending more on defense than the next 17 highest-spending countries combined. And we need to buy fleets of drones for our LE. What? You think money grow on trees? So Ben you want the government to build all the new wind farms, solar arrays, etc. ? How much of your portfolio is invested in green energy? Mostly, I want our government to stop its war mongering and bring defense spending to a saner level -- which ought to be just a fraction of what it is today. Maybe we can "just" spend more than China and Russia and Saudi Arabia combined -- instead of the total of 17 countries? And what does that have to do with wind power. We know your feelings about defense spending, you bring it up in almost every thread
Better to spend money on developing wind power -- or really, anything at all -- then on being the menace to the world.
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"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."
Eisenhower
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ol-zeke
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Gabby-- From the reference to drones, I took LE to be Law Enforcement.
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You might want to ask Spain's unemployed if they really give a damn about wind turbines.
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Montecresto
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(Ben2World @ Feb. 08 2013, 2:07 pm)
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So where are all those who repeatedly told us this was not possible? It's not possible because we need to keep spending more on defense than the next 17 highest-spending countries combined. And we need to buy fleets of drones for our LE. What? You think money grow on trees?
Lol. Very good!
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Actaully they are very concerned because the subsidies are being cut on wind power....you know....because they are basically broke
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WalksWithBlackflies
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2013, 2:38 pm |
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#1 subsidy: The US military protecting our petroleum interests.
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What is the alternative to highways, airports and harbors exactly???
Because if any of those could be replaced with infrastructure that pays for itself (like maybe a toll road) I am all for it
Otherwise we are juggling apples with our oranges
And does our govt hand out money to make plane tickets, highway tolls or harbor fees insexpensive enough to encourage people to use them?
We should obviously bankrupt our economy so we can take over the lead on wind energy
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Montecresto
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(Ben2World @ Feb. 09 2013, 12:07 am)
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QUOTE Right on! for Espana!
So where are all those who repeatedly told us this was not possible? It's not possible because we need to keep spending more on defense than the next 17 highest-spending countries combined. And we need to buy fleets of drones for our LE. What? You think money grow on trees? So Ben you want the government to build all the new wind farms, solar arrays, etc. ? How much of your portfolio is invested in green energy? Mostly, I want our government to stop its war mongering and bring defense spending to a saner level -- which ought to be just a fraction of what it is today. Maybe we can "just" spend more than China and Russia and Saudi Arabia combined -- instead of the total of 17 countries? And what does that have to do with wind power. We know your feelings about defense spending, you bring it up in almost every thread Better to spend money on developing wind power -- or really, anything at all -- then on being the menace to the world.
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