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Old Frank 
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2013, 5:01 pm |
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http://news.yahoo.com/obama-l....cs.html
"...."He doesn't have the courage to take on the liberal side of his own party," Boehner said at a breakfast briefing with television correspondents and anchors. "He just doesn't have the courage to lead when it comes to our long-term spending problem."
The top House Republican said that when it comes to making tough decisions on the nation's deficit, "I don't think he has the guts to do it....."
I have a few uncomplimentary adjectives to describe Obama (even tho I voted for him; he was the best choice), but gutless (on any issue) isn't one of them.
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2013, 7:26 pm |
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Did you catch the Dr. Suess take off by Jon Stewart last week??
"They do not like you, Barrack Obama
Not one bit
They do not like you on a train, or on a plane or on a llama.
They do not like you, Barrack Obama."
Not likely to start liking him either, but Obama knows that, and will not let it stand in the way of getting as much done this term as is humanly possible, with the support of a majority of Americans, and in spite of the Party of NO.
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justwalkin
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2013, 7:47 pm |
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"They do not like you, Barrack Obama
Not one bit
They do not like you on a train, or on a plane or on a llama.
They do not like you, Barrack Obama."
Cute, but in no way does it address the point. Obama is gutless on the deficit. Even his his supporters must conclude that he is not only disinterested in economics, but incompetent as well.
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Dennis The Menace
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2013, 8:04 pm |
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ya and should we expect anything other than that kind of hypocrisy exhibited from Boehner?
Boehner has kissed the ass of the tea party far more than than Obama has kissed the
ass of progressive in his own party(heck Obama refereed to the left as the "professional
left"). The entire notion that Obama hasn't taken on his own party also assumes that
there are as many extremist in the Democratic party as there are the Republican party
preventing compromise on the issues which is total hogwash
As far as spending goes. Geez. The hypocrisy is just amazing. The growth of spending has
been the lowest since at least 1960 so far under the Obama(HSF and I both have started
threads on how low spending has actually been during the Obama years contradicting the tiresome
popular but dishonest right-wing narrative) years while Boehner has voted for some of the
biggest drivers of the deficit whether it was medicare part D to the two wars to the Bush tax
cuts(not spending but contribute as much or more to our debt than any spending). Boehner also
voted against ObamaRomneyHeritageFoundationCare which unlike the medicare prescription drug
bill is deficit neutral according to the CBO(actually it is better than deficit neutral since
according to the CBO repealing ObamaRomneyHeritageFoundationCare would result in an
increase to our deficits of 109 billion)
Boehner is like most Republicans. Bitch and complain about spending and debt WHEN THEY ARE
OUT OF POWER AND ONLY WHEN THEY ARE OUT OF POWER.
Boehner is yet another lying hypocritical Republican.
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hikerjer
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2013, 10:46 pm |
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justwalkin is justalking - but not saying much.
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SW Mtn backpacker
Born to hike, forced to work ...
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2013, 8:41 am |
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The best quote I've heard about this is "republicans want to want to cut the budget..." from Mathew Yglesias over at Slate's business page. As we discussed here, Medicare will probably need to be slashed ("Voucher-care"?) and the lefties were pretty much in agreement. Noticed most righties were absent and that's kind of the point. Cuts will hurt their constituents disproportionally and they need democratic cover.
This is about what generation(s) will be told they are paying for their elders full Medicare while getting their own Vouchercare, maybe privatizing SS, and everything else pales in comparison. Of course for a bunch of steely eyed "Ayn Rand" reading, investing types, most missed that buy signal in 2009 when the Dow was 700-ish, and that creates problems...
Add, reading history, people bought at the highs right before the Great Depression, thus creating Soc Sec. Hasn't that been the case before and after, now affecting real estate, first California in the early 90's and now homes nationwide? Think a hybrid approach will work but the pain should be shared now. Just start implementing voucher-care now -15 years trad Medicare, the rest Voucher-care. 80 years is too long on this planet (in some cases I'd cut that to 30).
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In wildness is the preservation of the world. - Henry Thoreau
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BillBab
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2013, 8:44 am |
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Much like his home state where they keep talking baout their pension crisis but do NOTHING to fix it
Because it will be hard...and the fix will not make everyone happy
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Dennis The Menace
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2013, 12:23 pm |
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hard like in tax increases? Ya right.
When something is hard when it comes to deficit reduction its always on the spending side but\
almost never on the revenue side as far as Republicans go
Speaking on the spending side, I guess we can also put Billbab down as not knowing that Obama
is smallest spender since Ike(even though HSF recently linked it)
http://www.forbes.com/sites....k-obama
^^ Look BillBab, Forbes is even the source. "Liberal Media" not.
So Republicans bitch and complain about debt when they are out of power and then their sheep
follow the marching orders.
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Old Frank
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2013, 6:07 pm |
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FRONTLINE broadcast in January a well-done (I thought) summary of Obama's first term.
I thought it had a fairly even-handed neutral tone (recognizing there may not be any totally bias-free "doco's").
It included some interesting insight about the dynamics between Obama/Boehner and Boehner/Cantor. My opinion of Boehner actually improved a little after I saw it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/inside-obamas-presidency/
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