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Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) believes that President Barack Obama and "most liberal Democrats" really want to repeal the Second Amendment.

On Thursday, conservative radio host Laura Ingraham asked Hatch, "Do you think, if he had his druthers, President Obama would repeal the Second Amendment?"

"I don't think there's any question about it. Most liberal Democrats would," Hatch replied. "I don't know of any liberal Republicans that would, but most liberal Democrats would. They'll mouth that they wouldn't, but look, what are they doing? They want more and more controls."



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Would you expect anything else from the intellectual heir of Brigham Young? Mormons discovered at Mountain Meadows that it's much easier to massacre innocent people when fully armed.
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That has nothing to do with the op topic.

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Sure it does. Your topic is based on the "opinion" of one man who is spouting nonsense.  His opinion is clouded by his beliefs. In other words, no one with any sense would give Hatch's opinion any credibility at all on the issue of the 2nd Amendment.
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His opinion is supported by much political rhetoric on gun control from the left. Not by his faith. You don't even know what sense is.

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Nothing is said is based in fact. It's purely is opinion. His opinion on the topic is no more valid than Ted Nugent's or yours.
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Would you expect anything else from the intellectual heir of Brigham Young? Mormons discovered at Mountain Meadows that it's much easier to massacre innocent people when fully armed.

You're a A** to try and correlate with someones religion.
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Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) believes that President Barack Obama and "most liberal Democrats" really want to repeal the Second Amendment.

On Thursday, conservative radio host Laura Ingraham asked Hatch, "Do you think, if he had his druthers, President Obama would repeal the Second Amendment?"

"I don't think there's any question about it. Most liberal Democrats would," Hatch replied. "I don't know of any liberal Republicans that would, but most liberal Democrats would. They'll mouth that they wouldn't, but look, what are they doing? They want more and more controls."



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013....62.html


Ya, well demgogue right-wing Republicans will often say things they don't even believe in
because they think its a way to pander to their ignorant base and thus help them win their
next primary election(a Republican in Utah obviously would only have to worry about a
primary election rather than a general election)


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"Do you think, if he had his druthers, President Obama would repeal the Second Amendment?"

"I don't think there's any question about it..."

So you would rather take the opinion of a political opponent over the man's own words regarding his position on firearms and the Second Amendment?
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No. Obama as senator and presidential candidate had some less than supportive things to say about guns. But let's wait and see where he falls on this issue ultimately. The DOJ has a summary paper right now that supports confiscation. Obviously it's far from law or policy. But anyone that denies the global trend of banning firearms to all citizens is naive.

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Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) believes that President Barack Obama and "most liberal Democrats" really want to repeal the Second Amendment.

On Thursday, conservative radio host Laura Ingraham asked Hatch, "Do you think, if he had his druthers, President Obama would repeal the Second Amendment?"

"I don't think there's any question about it. Most liberal Democrats would," Hatch replied. "I don't know of any liberal Republicans that would, but most liberal Democrats would. They'll mouth that they wouldn't, but look, what are they doing? They want more and more controls."



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Ya, well demgogue right-wing Republicans will often say things they don't even believe in
because they think its a way to pander to their ignorant base and thus help them win their
next primary election(a Republican in Utah obviously would only have to worry about a
primary election rather than a general election)

Sure. And so will democrats. Partisans perpetuate America's woes.

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Monte

This iteration of the Republican party are the kings of demagoguery

and when Democrats do demagogue they obviously will not say that most
liberal democrats want to repeal the 2nd amendment

So you acknowledge the guy you quoted probably doesn't even believe what
he said and just said it to rile up the base of his party?


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No, I don't acknowledge that. I'm just saying don't hold democrats elevated above republicans. Both parties are filth. A real constitutional party needs to arise if the US we have known is to survive.

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No. Obama as senator and presidential candidate had some less than supportive things to say about guns. But let's wait and see where he falls on this issue ultimately. The DOJ has a summary paper right now that supports confiscation. Obviously it's far from law or policy. But anyone that denies the global trend of banning firearms to all citizens is naive.

"The DOJ has a summary paper right now that supports confiscation."

Want to expand on that with a link?

Confiscation of what firearms?

Does any confiscation of ANY firearms for any reason proof that those who
want to confiscate ANY firearm for any reason want to repeal the 2nd amendment?


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One by one the remaining countries that have allowed private gun ownership have been repealing this right. The UN has stated that private gun ownership in America is an impediment to their global agenda.

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No, I don't acknowledge that. I'm just saying don't hold democrats elevated above republicans. Both parties are filth. A real constitutional party needs to arise if the US we have known is to survive.

both parties are NOT equally irresponsible with their rhetoric

but more to the point this isn't about some competition to see which side are more demgogues.

It is about the fact that you quoted hatch as if the mere fact(you did this before when quoted
Newt) of quoting him adds weight to what he said without even considering the political
motivation of why he might have said what he said.  Hatch has always been a senator with
very little crediblity


So you deny that he was demagoguing?


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I don't believe he was demagoguing. Absolutely not. He believes liberals ideally would prefer confiscation.

"The National Rifle Association has obtained a Department of Justice memo calling for national gun registration and confiscation. The nine page “cursory summary” on current gun control initiatives was not officially releasedby the Obama administration.

The DOJ memo states the administration “believes that a gun ban will not work without mandatory gun confiscation” and thinks universal background checks “won’t work without requiring national gun registration.” Obama has yet to publicly support national registration or firearms confiscation, although the memo reveals his administration is moving in that direction."



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One by one the remaining countries that have allowed private gun ownership have been repealing this right. The UN has stated that private gun ownership in America is an impediment to their global agenda.

evading the question

Yes or No

If the government takes away ANY FIREARM(lets just say one firearm and its was about the
most lethal firearm you can think of that only the most lethal special ops operators would
use) from ANYONE(regardless of that person's criminal and psychological background) then
that is proof that the government wants to repeal the 2nd amendment?

Its simple question with a very direct simple answer.


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Yes. I agree with senator Hatch that the ultimate goal for the US is total gun confiscation. Btw, I don't agree with him on anything else.

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I don't believe he was demagoguing. Absolutely not. He believes liberals ideally would prefer confiscation.

"The National Rifle Association has obtained a Department of Justice memo calling for national gun registration and confiscation. The nine page “cursory summary” on current gun control initiatives was not officially releasedby the Obama administration.

The DOJ memo states the administration “believes that a gun ban will not work without mandatory gun confiscation” and thinks universal background checks “won’t work without requiring national gun registration.” Obama has yet to publicly support national registration or firearms confiscation, although the memo reveals his administration is moving in that direction."



http://www.topix.com/forum/city/little-falls-ny/T0BT2HU1NA4SJ9FHL

Aside from the fact I think you're a total fool to think Hatch really believes that

What you quoted WAS NOT FROM THE DOJ(gee surprise you didn't source it to the DOJ) but the
NRA's propaganda spin on what the DOJ supposedly said



The gun lobby is citing the nine-page memo in ads running in 15 states, including several
swing states with Senate elections next year. In the ad, the NRA says the memo proves that
the administration “believes that a gun ban will not work without mandatory gun confiscation”



http://thehill.com/blogs....easures

See this the way the Gun fanatic propagandists work. They claim something when the something
is straight from the NRA but claim that something is something else


Link to the DOJ source itself to see if they really did say that


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Stirring up the base.   This is as ridiculous a strawman as Sharia law.

Where is the proposed repeal legislation?
Where are the votes in Congress?
Where are the votes in the states to ratify?
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Yes. I agree with senator Hatch that the ultimate goal for the US is total gun confiscation. Btw, I don't agree with him on anything else.

Pure idiotic lunacy.

But having said you evaded my question again. I didn't ask you if you "agree with senator
Hatch that the ultimate goal for the US is total gun confiscation".

I asked you

If the government takes away ANY FIREARM(lets just say one firearm and its was about the
most lethal firearm you can think of that only the most lethal special ops operators would
use) from ANYONE(regardless of that person's criminal and psychological background) then
that is proof that the government wants to repeal the 2nd amendment?

Yes or no?


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Stirring up the base.   This is as ridiculous a strawman as Sharia law.

Where is the proposed repeal legislation?
Where are the votes in Congress?
Where are the votes in the states to ratify?

Ya its obviously stirring up the base. Last primary election Hatch was worried that he
would become like Bennet(the previous conservative senator in Utah who lost in a primary
challenge to a tea party because he was deemed not conservative enough for the tea party).

Now I never liked Hatch ever since he defended the even more detestable Oliver North during
the Iran-contra hearings in the 1980's

he also one of the most corrupt politicians when it comes to lobbying for and conflict of
interest for pharmaceutical industry

Check this out

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Your naive if you miss the trend, globally over the last few decades to deny private gun ownership. And the UN's agenda.

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Stirring up the base.   This is as ridiculous a strawman as Sharia law.

Where is the proposed repeal legislation?
Where are the votes in Congress?
Where are the votes in the states to ratify?

Ya its obviously stirring up the base. Last primary election Hatch was worried that he
would become like Bennet(the previous conservative senator in Utah who lost in a primary
challenge to a tea party because he was deemed not conservative enough for the tea party).

Now I never liked Hatch ever since he defended the even more detestable Oliver North during
the Iran-contra hearings in the 1980's

he also one of the most corrupt politicians when it comes to lobbying for and conflict of
interest for pharmaceutical industry

Check this out

http://www.csmonitor.com/2000/0719/p1s2.html/%28page%29/2

I agree with those assessments about Hatch.

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Your naive if you miss the trend, globally over the last few decades to deny private gun ownership. And the UN's agenda.

We aren't talking about any parnoid view of a trend

We are talking about a question I asked you that you keep evading

here is the question again


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and that question was Monte

If the government takes away ANY FIREARM(lets just say one firearm and its was about the
most lethal firearm you can think of that only the most lethal special ops operators would
use) from ANYONE(regardless of that person's criminal and psychological background) then
that is proof that the government wants to repeal the 2nd amendment?

Yes or no?


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Stirring up the base.   This is as ridiculous a strawman as Sharia law.

Where is the proposed repeal legislation?
Where are the votes in Congress?
Where are the votes in the states to ratify?

Ya its obviously stirring up the base. Last primary election Hatch was worried that he
would become like Bennet(the previous conservative senator in Utah who lost in a primary
challenge to a tea party because he was deemed not conservative enough for the tea party).

Now I never liked Hatch ever since he defended the even more detestable Oliver North during
the Iran-contra hearings in the 1980's

he also one of the most corrupt politicians when it comes to lobbying for and conflict of
interest for pharmaceutical industry

Check this out

http://www.csmonitor.com/2000/0719/p1s2.html/%28page%29/2

I agree with those assessments about Hatch.

one of those assessments about Hatch was that Hatch was
"stirring up the base"

if you agree with that you've contradicted yourself


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Your naive if you miss the trend, globally over the last few decades to deny private gun ownership. And the UN's agenda.

Can you point out some constitutional changes that were made in response to external pressure without sufficient domestic support?  Can you point to any that were made without repeal legislation, votes in Congress, or ratification by the states?
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Your naive if you miss the trend, globally over the last few decades to deny private gun ownership. And the UN's agenda.

I believe you have been brainwashed by the NRA (and similar groups) regarding OUR government's secret desire to disarm OUR entire nation.

I capitalize "OUR" because what other governments and their citizens have done is irrelevant to what OUR nation and OUR citizens will do.  The UN does not run our nation.  It never has and it never will.
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