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Zero actual mention of 9/11.

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Egyptian women attacked the WTC and pentagon? I learn something everyday.

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Egyptian women attacked the WTC and pentagon? I learn something everyday.

And people think the interwebs are just for porn!

Al Gore was right!
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Egyptian women attacked the WTC and pentagon? I learn something everyday.

And people think the interwebs are just for porn!

Al Gore was right!

I'm pretty sure it was Bill Clinton that thought the interwebs were just for porn, not Al.

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Well, they are fighting freedom......
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Why can't people teach -- and children learn -- about cultures as they are  -- and not insist on viewing and then moralizing about them -- through the prism of our own culture, background and biases?   ???

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Why can't people teach -- and children learn -- about cultures as they are  -- and not insist on viewing and then moralizing about them -- through the prism of our own culture, background and biases?   ???

you mean like the culture of Nazi Germany?


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Why can't people teach -- and children learn -- about cultures as they are  -- and not insist on viewing and then moralizing about them -- through the prism of our own culture, background and biases?   ???

you mean like the culture of Nazi Germany?


A culture like Nazi Germany?  It's intellectually lazy (and offensive) to reduce cultures and systems and even countries into caricatures.  Kind of like reducing an entire person to either a "liberal" or "conservative" and fancying that as "understanding".

If this is still lost on you, bill g...  then use this comparison.  Would you simplistically label 19th Century America the same way as you do Nazi Germany?  Because America slaughtered vast numbers of Indians -- just to take over their land!!  But no, we teach our own history with A LOT MORE nuancing and MUCH DEEPER attempts at understanding, don't we?   :;):

Finally, one can (and should) point out actions that are immoral -- without painting an entire culture as such.  Or do you wish foreign teachers to educate their young about our American culture primarily through the prism of our immoral deeds -- and just stop there?


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The Great One?

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you mean like the culture of Nazi Germany?

Actually, one of the most important lessons in history, and one that is lost on the right wing of today.  Thank Gaea that General Marshall had the brains, the character and the patience to prevent it from happening again with Germany and Japan after WWII.

The culture of Germany that led to Hitler is a complicated and profound piece of cultural history.  One that hardly any American students or citizens bother to learn these days.

What a country!


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General Marshall had the brains, the character and the patience to prevent it from happening again with Germany and Japan after WWII.

One that hardly any American students or citizens bother to learn these days.

What a country!

My thoughts reading your post:

1.  Marshall lived through the Great Depression, and more importantly, he experienced the terror, bloodshed, and destruction of WWII.  His was a different generation from our own.

2.  Compare that to Baby Boomer and Gen X --most of whom have seen no bloodshed nor experienced true deprivation -- and are thus 'cursed' with arrogance and ignorance.  Bush only had to scare us with WMD (later shown as fictitious) and most of us jumped on the war bandwagon (mostly as cheerleaders, of course).  Have we learned our lesson?  NO, even today, we are so full of ourselves... we have no hunger for learning the lessons of history!  Count our lucky star that our leader was arrogant but NOT evil -- because we behaved mostly liked sheep -- not so different from the Germans 70 years ago.

3.  Yeah, agree, what a country!

Finally, re. the culture of Germany -- one often overlooked aspect was that it was central and eastern Europe that took in Jews by the millions -- who fled the persecution and intolerance of western Europe -- Britain, Spain, Italy, France!  And one aspect of today's German culture that I actually like is their much less intense and overt 'patriotism'.


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There are about 58195 "Baby Boomer" Names on The Wall in Wash,D.C. that show the oversimplified arrogance of such "Baby Boomer and Gen X --most of whom have seen no bloodshed nor experienced true deprivation".

Try feeding your own hunger by learning some actual history rather than the cartoon America you've got stuck in your head perhaps?

As to Marshall: He was  an Army Brigadier General during the depression: that's hardly a starvation posting.  I'll presume he actually DID look at actual history and realized what a complete cockup the revenge of the Treaty of Versaille turned into. A treaty whose details were worked out by people who'd just come through the incedible horror of World War I: and that didn't keep them from screwing things up by the numbers. Far from it, it made it worse as they sought maximum revenge.
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Egyptian women attacked the WTC and pentagon? I learn something everyday.

Well who else would have been able to place the fictional I mean highly classified thermite paste to the structure?


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We really need a "read before you post" sticky on the pitfalls of linking to blogs & op-ed pieces.
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There are about 58195 "Baby Boomer" Names on The Wall in Wash,D.C. that show the oversimplified arrogance of such "Baby Boomer and Gen X --most of whom have seen no bloodshed nor experienced true deprivation".

Try feeding your own hunger by learning some actual history rather than the cartoon America you've got stuck in your head perhaps?

Why the rudeness, HSF?  It's reported repeatedly that 70% of Americans supported attacking Iraq.  Most knew little about Iraq and cared even less.

So, I wouldn't just point fingers at the citizenry of Nazi era Germany.  What a country, eh?


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+1.

OP was trolling.


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Burka-clad muslim women are potential threats.  Too ez to hide weapons underneath all that loose clothing.  OK if they dress that way at home, but ought to be prohibited in public.

I'm surprised they let them so close to the Pope today;  some even opened the face cover a little so they could see better.  Wonder if they were planning something?

Oops.  Just realized they were nuns.  Never mind.


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Burka-clad muslim women are potential threats.  Too ez to hide weapons underneath all that loose clothing.  OK if they dress that way at home, but ought to be prohibited in public.

I'm surprised they let them so close to the Pope today;  some even opened the face cover a little so they could see better.  Wonder if they were planning something?

Oops.  Just realized they were nuns.  Never mind.

Bad Frankie, bad, bad Frankie.   :D

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Oops.  Just realized they were nuns.  Never mind.

That sounds like a bad habit  :p

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Oops.  Just realized they were nuns.  Never mind.

That sounds like a bad habit  :p

Mission from God, dude, mission from God.
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Oh No, not The Penguin!  :O

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