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Not only is their understanding of gun rights in the 18th Century, so is their understanding of public relations!

Rep. Don Young (R-AK) used an ethnic slur to describe Mexican farm workers in an interview with a local station KRBD on Thursday.

"My father had a ranch; we used to have 50-60 wetbacks to pick tomatoes,” he said while discussing economic trends of the last few decades. “It takes two people to pick the same tomatoes now. It’s all done by machine.”

Young's "wetback" remark comes as the GOP is engaged in a large scale effort to win over Latino voters, who have been alienated by party members' anti-immigration rhetoric and policies in recent years.


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I took an Amtrak ride back in the mid 80's one time -- and talked with an elderly woman (she's gotta be 105 by now if she is still alive) -- and she asked me midway whether I was a China man!  From our conversation and all, she meant no malice whatsoever -- although that label was (thankfully) out of fashion even back then.

Young.  He apologized, correct?  Hard to discern malice (or not) from a radio show but one can look into his forty-year-long voting record and speeches and all that, no?  Shame on him if this reflects an underlying current of racism.  But if not, then I accept his apology.  Bet he'll be a lot more careful next time around.

Anti racism.  But anti PC and political haymaking too.


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You broad brush the entire Republican Party with this. Several Democratic Party leaders served in the Klan, and....

- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Democrat icon and orchestrator of Japanese Internment
- Ex-House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, former affiliate of a St. Louis area racist group
- Ex-Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd, former Ku Klux Klansman known for making bigoted slurs on national television
- Rev. Jesse Jackson, Democrat keynote speaker and race hustler known for making anti-Semitic slurs
- Rev. Al Sharpten, Democrat activist and perennial candidate and race hustler known inciting anti-Semitic violence in New York City
- Sen. Ernest Hollings, leading Democrat Senator known for use of racial slurs against several minority groups
- Lee P. Brown, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat mayor of Houston who won reelection using racial intimidation against Hispanic voters
- Andrew Cuomo, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat candidate for NY Governor who made racist statements about a black opponent.
- Dan Rather, Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist known for using anti-black racial epithets on a national radio broadcast
- Donna Brazile, former Gore campaign manager known for making anti-white racial attacks. Brazile has also worked for Jackson, Gephardt, and Michael Dukakis


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June 10, 1964, was a dramatic day in the United States Senate. For the first time in its history, cloture was invoked on a civil rights bill, ending a record-breaking filibuster by Democrats that had consumed fifty-seven working days. The hero of the hour was minority leader Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen (R-Ill.).

There are snakes in both parties and you partisans keep pretending that your crow is the blackest crow.


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Only in your tiny mind.

One of the best things about the Democrat Party is the fact that we have owned the bad history when a bunch of Southern Democrats  were the racist voices of America.  

But we rejected them, embraced Civil Rights, and then suffered the political consequences as Nixon saw the opportunity to turn those racists into Repbublican leaders, and to use that coalition to maintain power until Bill Clinton broke that mold, and now we have the big tent, inclusive Party that is growing with the demographic trends, rather than fighting to stop progress for women, minorities and young people in America.  

The leader who  made the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act possible was Lyndon B. Johnson, a Texas Democrat of the old school.

Keep pretending, but that is the history and experience that a lot of us older liberals have lived through, and we love to see what is happening with President Obama now.  He is far from being a leftist, but he is a champion for civil rights and justice for all, no matter the skin color, the sexual orientation, or the age.

When Republicans try to undermine, or reverse the progress that is being made, I try to make their efforts obvious, and public.  YMMV


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Hang on to your party. That's what good partisans do.

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Thanks for the sage advice.

It is the only effective way to get national policies in place that I agree with.

How is that working out for you "independent"  lovers of Ayn Rand and her fantasy world??


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And when have I espoused her or her policies? Partisan failure again.

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When Republicans try to undermine, or reverse the progress that is being made, I try to make their efforts obvious, and public.  YMMV

Even when it is political hay making?  NOT saying it is -- I don't know.  But what's a slip of a tongue (if it were a slip of the tongue) compared to 40 years of service (if it is an honorable record of service)?

My point is that 'everyone' (media, etc.) seems to treat every instance of negativity as a call to attack mode!  Yes, 'wet back' is negative.  I just wish our media -- given its awesome power of communication -- could at least do some quick fact checks -- is this a racist who's at it again -- or is it really an anomaly -- and fine tune their reporting accordingly??

This kind of swift and vicious attack can land on any unfortunate Democrat as well.  My bone is with our media -- and some of our politicians too -- on both sides of the aisle.

But having said all the above, if Young is kicking himself for his idiotic remark -- he should.


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You broad brush the entire Republican Party with this. Several Democratic Party leaders served in the Klan, and....

- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Democrat icon and orchestrator of Japanese Internment
- Ex-House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, former affiliate of a St. Louis area racist group
- Ex-Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd, former Ku Klux Klansman known for making bigoted slurs on national television
- Rev. Jesse Jackson, Democrat keynote speaker and race hustler known for making anti-Semitic slurs
- Rev. Al Sharpten, Democrat activist and perennial candidate and race hustler known inciting anti-Semitic violence in New York City
- Sen. Ernest Hollings, leading Democrat Senator known for use of racial slurs against several minority groups
- Lee P. Brown, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat mayor of Houston who won reelection using racial intimidation against Hispanic voters
- Andrew Cuomo, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat candidate for NY Governor who made racist statements about a black opponent.
- Dan Rather, Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist known for using anti-black racial epithets on a national radio broadcast
- Donna Brazile, former Gore campaign manager known for making anti-white racial attacks. Brazile has also worked for Jackson, Gephardt, and Michael Dukakis

" known for making anti-white racial attack"?

"Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist known for using anti-black racial
epithets on a national radio broadcast "

THis so reeks of BS and is very telling post from Monte.

Obviously Monte copied and pasted this but didn't give a source thus he wanted people
to give the impression it was his own words

On top of that where did what Monte copied and pasted come from? Well don't which exact
anonymous poster from which message board he got it from since there are so many anonymous
posters from so many message boards where this could have come from. See look

https://www.google.com/search?....refox-a

So obviously Monte knew that citing an an anonymous poster from a message board as a source
would look absurd and hence why a link to this source is missing. Of course it was absurd
for Monte to think that someone wouldn't pick up the fact that this was copied and pasted.
Absurd to think assertions like Dan Rather, Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist
known for using anti-black racial epithets on a national radio broadcast - Donna Brazile,
former Gore campaign manager known for making anti-white racial attacks. Brazile has also
worked for Jackson, Gephardt, and Michael Dukakis
wouldn't be dead giveaway that this
was nothing but a right-wing partisan piece of drivel copied and pasted from someone who
always accuses others of being partisan. The irony is delicious.

Suffice to say, lets see Monte provide real evidence to back up some of those statements
(some of those assertions like that from Sharpton are well known). Whether he can or can't
its also telling that propagandist like Monte has to go back how many years to make
a false equivalence to frequent recent examples from the GOP?


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June 10, 1964, was a dramatic day in the United States Senate. For the first time in its history, cloture was invoked on a civil rights bill, ending a record-breaking filibuster by Democrats that had consumed fifty-seven working days. The hero of the hour was minority leader Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen (R-Ill.).

There are snakes in both parties and you partisans keep pretending that your crow is the blackest crow.

Going back 49 years just so you can try and make what a an equivalence

Hey Monte

Are Democrats before the mid 1960's the same as today's Democrats?

You've obviously never heard of the southern strategy

Read up on it here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Suffice to say after the civil rights legislation, those racist Democrats started to switch to the GOP  
starting in the mid to late 1960's


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Liberal party racial slur. A few months back recent enough.

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Surely I don't have to link to prove FDR rounded up Japanese Americans and forced them into detention facilities in what has been possibly the biggest racial profiling incident in Americas oft jaded history.


Gephardt Tied to White-Rights Group
Carl Limbacher
March 18, 1999
House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt spoke before a prominent St. Louis white-rights organization during his first run for Congress and attended two of the group's picnics after his election, says Gordon Baum, head of the Council of Conservative Citizens.

http://archive.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/3/18/115139

Jesse Jackson, hymietown, really, you need a link?


Al Sharpton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#Comments_on_Jews

Senator Hollings

Senator Ernest Hollings, D-SC: Hollings is liberal Democrat Senator from South Carolina who is also notorious for his use of racial slurs.

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive....93.html


L. P. Brown

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b2_1269192716


Dan Rather.
Former CBS News anchor Dan Rather, speaking on the GOP's expected strategy against Democrats in elections this fall, said Republicans would describe President Obama as "a nice person ... very articulate" but an ineffective leader who "couldn't sell watermelons if you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic."


And everyone knows Joe Biden is racist, must you be reminded of those examples as well?


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Sounds pretty partisan to me, Monte.

Have you jumped on board the Party of NO??  heh


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Ha. Accuses me of not supporting claims of racism within the Democratic Party. And it's partisan to post the proof. And this from one of the partisan twins on the forum.

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Hey west, was I a partisan when I posted this a few weeks back? YOU are the partisan. I on the other hand have never been dyed in any wool.

John's 35 Reasons To Appreciate The Democratic Party - With All Their Faults  1) Democrats Fought for Social Security (F.D.R.)
2) Democrats Fought for Medicare (L.B.J.)
3) Democrats Fought for Medicaid (L.B.J.)
4) Democrats Fought for Welfare Benefits (F.D.R.)
5) Democrats Fought for Civil Rights (L.B.J.)
6) Democrats Fought for Unemployment Insurance (F.D.R.)
7) Democrats Fought for National Labor Relations Board (F.D.R.)
8) Democrats Fought for 8 Hour Work Day-5 Day Work Week- Work Place Breaks & Overtime Pay (F.D.R.)
9) Democrats Fought for Workers Compensation (Woodrow Wilson)
10) Democrats Fought for Americans with Disability Act (101st Democratic Congress - over G.H.W. Bush veto)
11) Democrats Fought for Holiday Pay(F.D.R.)
12) Democrats Fought for Medical Leave Act (Bill Clinton)
13) Democrats Fought for Prevention of Child Labor (F.D.R.)
14) Democrats Fought for Minimum Wage Act (F.D.R.)
15) Democrats Fought for Work Place Safety (OSHA) *** (Nixon)
16) Democrats Fought for Affirmative Action as it relates to Racial Discrimination (J.F.K)
17) Democrats Fought for Women's Rights (L.B.J)
18) Democrats Fought for Tax Fairness (Platform Issue)
19) Democrats Fought for Veterans Pay & Benefits (F.D.R.)
20) Democrats Fought for Consumer Protection / Consumer Bill of Rights (J.F.K.)
21) Democrats Fought for Gun Law's / Background Checks to prevent felons from getting Weapons (L.B.J) (B.Clinton)
22) Democrats Fought for Credit Card Holders Bill of Rights (Barack Obama)
23) Democrats Fought for Funding Our Schools (L.B.J.)
24) Democrats Fought for Grants for low income people to attend college (L.B.J.)
25) Democrats Fought for Environmental Regulations - Clean Water Act / Clean Air Act (Dems Override Nixon Veto)
26) Democrats Fought for Financial Regulations keeping Wall Street Wizards Accountable (Dodd/Frank - Obama)
27) Democrats Fought for Affordable Health Care for Everyone (Obama Care)
28) Democrats Fought for Hate Crime Legislation (Matthew Shepard) (Barack Obama)
29) Democrats Fought for Children's Health Legislation for 11 Million Children without Health Care (Barack Obama)
30) Democrats Fought for Voting Rights Act (L.B.J)
31) Democrats Fought for National Voter Registration (Bill Clinton)
32) Democrats Fought for Largest Deficit Cutting Plan in History (Bill Clinton)
33) Democrats Fought for Clayton Anti-Trust Act (Woodrow Wilson)
34) Democrats Fought for Securities & Exchange Act (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
35) Democrats Fought for National School Lunch Program (Harry Truman)


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See, I give credit where credit is due, and criticism when that's in order. The partisan twins here, exclusively criticise the GOP and praise the dems. True partisans.

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Moral to this thread. There are golden tongues in both parties. Pretending it only exists in the GOP, is discrediting to you.

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As far as I can tell, you are the only one who thinks that Democrats don't make mistakes, racist remarks, sexual peccadilloes, criminal activites, just like all human beings.

I fully recognize that reality, but my role here is to see that the dishonesty, hypocrisy and pure selffishness of the Republicans gets exposed to the right wing zealots and gun nuts who are here to denigrate Obama and his attempts to improve American.  YMMV


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Wtf. I'm the one that points out the hypocrisy and selfishness of both parties. You on the other hand aren't here for your reason stated, your here to promote a party, partisan.

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Do you ever have anything of substance to say, or is it just full time whining?

Stick up for what you believe in, that is what I do, and yes, I am good at it.

Try contributing something of positive substance, even while you wait for the revolution by and by.

It is a lot like the pie in the sky!


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Partisan :)

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As far as I can tell, you are the only one who thinks that Democrats don't make mistakes, racist remarks, sexual peccadilloes, criminal activites, just like all human beings.

I fully recognize that reality, but my role here is to see that the dishonesty, hypocrisy and pure selffishness of the Republicans gets exposed to the right wing zealots and gun nuts who are here to denigrate Obama and his attempts to improve American.  YMMV

Why just Republicans?  Yeah, I know, plenty to keep you busy already -- but why not any politician or any political organization?


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I see Monte's poor reading comprehension is on full display but before I do note Monte
has nothing to say about the fact that post 3 of his was copied and pasted yet he gave no
source. Very dishonest and stupid

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Surely I don't have to link to prove FDR rounded up Japanese Americans and forced them into
detention facilities in what has been possibly the biggest racial profiling incident in
Americas oft jaded history.


I  will quote from you what I said

Suffice to say, lets see Monte provide real evidence to back up some of those statements
(some of those assertions like that from Sharpton are well known). Whether he can or can't
its also telling that propagandist like Monte has to go back how many years to make
a false equivalence to frequent recent examples from the GOP?




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Gephardt Tied to White-Rights Group
Carl Limbacher
March 18, 1999
House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt spoke before a prominent St. Louis white-rights organization during his first run for Congress and attended two of the group's picnics after his election, says Gordon Baum, head of the Council of Conservative Citizens.

http://archive.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/3/18/115139


^^ quotes the notorious right-wing Carl Limbacher from the notorious right-wing newsmax

and Gephardt was not cited in post 3. Post 3 is what I asked for evidence for.

Oh and when did Gephardt speak before the Council of Conservative Citizens.? 1976.
Is Gephardt even a member of congress now? NO

So let me quote what i said again


Whether he can or can't its also telling that propagandist like Monte has to go back how
many years to make a false equivalence to frequent recent examples from the GOP?




In attempting to defuse the issue, Republicans recently criticized House Minority Leader
Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.) for speaking at least once in 1976 to the Metro South Citizens
Council, a St. Louis branch of the precursor to the Council of Conservative Citizens.
Gephardt was running for Congress for the first time then. His staff described his
appearance as a routine campaign stop at a picnic for a community group in a St. Louis park.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv....e24.htm

You had Republican politicians who not only spoke before the COCC but were actually members
of it like Trent Lott(For instance, U.S. Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott had also been
a member of the CofCC


Lott spoke to the group five time

At first, even the politicians in question claimed they didn't know what this Council was
all about. Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi, who had spoken to the group five times, once
telling its members they "stand for the right principles and the right philosophy," claimed
he had "no firsthand knowledge" of it.


http://www.splcenter.org/get-inf....council

Both Lott and Republican Bobb Baar Spoke to the group much more recent than 1976


The controversy over the St. Louis-based Council of Conservative Citizens, which advocates
the preservation of the white race, erupted late last year after Rep. Robert L. Barr Jr.
(R-Ga.) spoke to the group. Barr later condemned the organization, as did Lott, who had
appeared before the council in 1992 and on at least one other occasion


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv....e24.htm

^^ article dated   March 24, 1999

So you make another false equivalence

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Jesse Jackson, hymietown, really, you need a link?


aside from the fact is I don't think that is even close to equivalent to a statement like
"wetback" let me quote again from what I said since you have such poor reading comprehension



Suffice to say, lets see Monte provide real evidence to back up some of those statements
(some of those assertions like that from Sharpton are well known). Whether he can or can't
its also telling that propagandist like Monte has to go back how many years to make
a false equivalence to frequent recent examples from the GOP?



Montecresto said
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let me quote again from what I said since you have such poor reading comprehension


Suffice to say, lets see Monte provide real evidence to back up some of those statements
(some of those assertions like that from Sharpton are well known). Whether he can or can't
its also telling that propagandist like Monte has to go back how many years to make
a false equivalence to frequent recent examples from the GOP?



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Senator Hollings

Senator Ernest Hollings, D-SC: Hollings is liberal Democrat Senator from South Carolina who is also notorious for his use of racial slurs.

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive....93.html


You're citing as your source someone by the name of Patriot@xxxxxxxxxxx in a newsgroup from
1999 about something Hollings did anywhere from 30 to 50 years ago

let me quote again from what I said since you have such poor reading comprehension


Suffice to say, lets see Monte provide real evidence to back up some of those statements
(some of those assertions like that from Sharpton are well known). Whether he can or can't
its also telling that propagandist like Monte has to go back how many years to make
a false equivalence to frequent recent examples from the GOP?



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Dude. What is the F*** at matter with you? Do you have any concept of what is a legitimate
source? When I said On top of that where did what Monte copied and pasted come from? Well
don't which exact anonymous poster from which message board he got it from since there are so
many anonymous posters from so many message boards where this could have come from.

this is one of the examples I was talking about. Your original copy and past which included
the statement Lee P. Brown, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat mayor of Houston
who won reelection using racial intimidation against Hispanic voters
surprise surprise
is also, word for word, in that liveleak post and its of course a right-wing screed by
someone who we don't even know who their name is(no anonymous handle is even given)

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Dan Rather.
Former CBS News anchor Dan Rather, speaking on the GOP's expected strategy against Democrats
in elections this fall, said Republicans would describe President Obama as "a nice person
... very articulate" but an ineffective leader who "couldn't sell watermelons if you gave
him the state troopers to flag down the traffic."


^^ no source given


and what you posted was Dan Rather about what he THOUGHT REPUBLICANS WOULD THINK ABOUT
OBAMA
(which wouldn't be racism from Rather. Maybe unfair characterization of Republicans
but racism from Rather) not his thoughts about Obama(which would be racism from Rather
which he didn't do). See there is that poor reading comprehension of yours

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And everyone knows Joe Biden is racist, must you be reminded of those examples as well?


So your labeling Biden a racist? You like to throw around that label racist recklessly?
and your proof?


and your evidence to back up that Andrew Cuomo and Brazile are racists?


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So Monte

Why do Hispanics and Blacks vote for Democrats in very very high percentages(especially
blacks) then?


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Hey west, was I a partisan when I posted this a few weeks back? YOU are the partisan. I on the other hand have never been dyed in any wool.

John's 35 Reasons To Appreciate The Democratic Party - With All Their Faults  1) Democrats Fought for Social Security (F.D.R.)
2) Democrats Fought for Medicare (L.B.J.)
3) Democrats Fought for Medicaid (L.B.J.)
4) Democrats Fought for Welfare Benefits (F.D.R.)
5) Democrats Fought for Civil Rights (L.B.J.)
6) Democrats Fought for Unemployment Insurance (F.D.R.)
7) Democrats Fought for National Labor Relations Board (F.D.R.)
8) Democrats Fought for 8 Hour Work Day-5 Day Work Week- Work Place Breaks & Overtime Pay (F.D.R.)
9) Democrats Fought for Workers Compensation (Woodrow Wilson)
10) Democrats Fought for Americans with Disability Act (101st Democratic Congress - over G.H.W. Bush veto)
11) Democrats Fought for Holiday Pay(F.D.R.)
12) Democrats Fought for Medical Leave Act (Bill Clinton)
13) Democrats Fought for Prevention of Child Labor (F.D.R.)
14) Democrats Fought for Minimum Wage Act (F.D.R.)
15) Democrats Fought for Work Place Safety (OSHA) *** (Nixon)
16) Democrats Fought for Affirmative Action as it relates to Racial Discrimination (J.F.K)
17) Democrats Fought for Women's Rights (L.B.J)
18) Democrats Fought for Tax Fairness (Platform Issue)
19) Democrats Fought for Veterans Pay & Benefits (F.D.R.)
20) Democrats Fought for Consumer Protection / Consumer Bill of Rights (J.F.K.)
21) Democrats Fought for Gun Law's / Background Checks to prevent felons from getting Weapons (L.B.J) (B.Clinton)
22) Democrats Fought for Credit Card Holders Bill of Rights (Barack Obama)
23) Democrats Fought for Funding Our Schools (L.B.J.)
24) Democrats Fought for Grants for low income people to attend college (L.B.J.)
25) Democrats Fought for Environmental Regulations - Clean Water Act / Clean Air Act (Dems Override Nixon Veto)
26) Democrats Fought for Financial Regulations keeping Wall Street Wizards Accountable (Dodd/Frank - Obama)
27) Democrats Fought for Affordable Health Care for Everyone (Obama Care)
28) Democrats Fought for Hate Crime Legislation (Matthew Shepard) (Barack Obama)
29) Democrats Fought for Children's Health Legislation for 11 Million Children without Health Care (Barack Obama)
30) Democrats Fought for Voting Rights Act (L.B.J)
31) Democrats Fought for National Voter Registration (Bill Clinton)
32) Democrats Fought for Largest Deficit Cutting Plan in History (Bill Clinton)
33) Democrats Fought for Clayton Anti-Trust Act (Woodrow Wilson)
34) Democrats Fought for Securities & Exchange Act (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
35) Democrats Fought for National School Lunch Program (Harry Truman)

Ah so in the end you do support the Democratic party even with all their faults?

If so what makes you think someone like me doesn't essentially have the same opinion?


Or are you just posting that in the same way that Bug posts a thread where he claims he is a
fan of  Chomsky just so he can insulate himself from charges that in fact bug really is a
foaming at the mouth right-wing cretins?

or is this more proof that your definition of a partisan is someone who does NOT equally bash
Republicans and Democrats(you can bash Republicans and Democrats all day but if someone
bashes a third party as much or more than Republicans or Democrats then that is NOT ok. In
that case they are a partisan because partisans can't bash third parties? Is that what you
think?)


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I took an Amtrak ride back in the mid 80's one time -- and talked with an elderly woman (she's gotta be 105 by now if she is still alive) -- and she asked me midway whether I was a China man!  From our conversation and all, she meant no malice whatsoever -- although that label was (thankfully) out of fashion even back then.

Young.  He apologized, correct?  Hard to discern malice (or not) from a radio show but one can look into his forty-year-long voting record and speeches and all that, no?  Shame on him if this reflects an underlying current of racism.  But if not, then I accept his apology.  Bet he'll be a lot more careful next time around.

Anti racism.  But anti PC and political haymaking too.

Ben

Young acknowledged the remark when called on it, but did NOT apologize until he was basically forced to by the leaders of his party.

His ridiculous "I meant no disrespect" was b-s .. he certainly didn't intend any respect in the remark, did he?

How on earth is it difficult to discern malice in the comment made by Don Young? "underlying current of racism"? I'd say it's pretty well beyond "underlying" when those words flew outta his loud mouth.


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How on earth is it difficult to discern malice in the comment made by Don Young? "underlying current of racism"? I'd say it's pretty well beyond "underlying" when those words flew outta his loud mouth.

Link from a mainstream or otherwise respected news source?


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Are you seriously unable to find that yourself, Ben? Or just pretending to be an idiot?

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Are you seriously unable to find that yourself, Ben? Or just pretending to be an idiot?

Walkinman:

You always have to be rude?  You made a statement against Young -- and I asked for supporting evidence.  I do not see a record of racist legislation or voting or even repeated slurs.  But apparently you did?  ???


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