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"I write this letter as someone who is politically far left of center. You and I have a lot in common, though you may not want to admit it by the end of this article. I think it’s time we had a talk."

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Thought of 5 things I'd rather spend my time on than reading another gun blog:

1) Write this
2) Rearange my sock drawer
3) Smoke some(more) crack
4) Help all my friends move and take them to the airport
5) Yoga
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Thought of 5 things I'd rather spend my time on than reading another gun blog:

It's no "gun blog", it's one showing how out of touch with reality you are. :D


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Thought of 5 things I'd rather spend my time on than reading another gun blog:

1) Write this
2) Rearange my sock drawer
3) Smoke some(more) crack
4) Help all my friends move and take them to the airport
5) Yoga

6) floss the cat's teeth
7) watch a Melanie Griffith movie
8) attend  a baby shower
9) march in a gay rights parade
10) paint someone's toenails
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(Lamebeaver @ Apr. 29 2013, 5:23 pm)
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(Marmotstew @ Apr. 29 2013, 3:15 pm)
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Thought of 5 things I'd rather spend my time on than reading another gun blog:

1) Write this
2) Rearange my sock drawer
3) Smoke some(more) crack
4) Help all my friends move and take them to the airport
5) Yoga

6) floss the cat's teeth
7) watch a Melanie Griffith movie
8) attend  a baby shower
9) march in a gay rights parade
10) paint someone's toenails

Incase YOU missed it too;

"I write this letter as someone who is politically far left of center."


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Buggy,

Given your fallacious arguments advocating for the completely unfettered access to firearms have never produced a plausible premise let alone sound syllogism in this forum don't you think your benefactors' money would go a lot farther somewhere more of the audience doesn't understand the basic precepts of logic?


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advocating for the completely unfettered access to firearms

Double Cabin, I have NEVER advocated for "unfettered" access to firearms. My position is, for the moment, the NRA's position; armed school guards and accurate, detailed and timely mental health reporting of identified individuals to the instant check system in place. My views are always "evolving" to prevent and stop tragedies such as Sandy Hook and others as long as they are pragmatic and don't penalize me for a criminals actions.

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Good OP link.

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My views are always "evolving" to prevent and stop tragedies such as Sandy Hook and others as long as they are pragmatic and don't penalize me for a criminals actions.


I can tell that. The TPA forum is a good way to view both sides of issues and many of the posts here illuminate factors that help to understand opposing views.

I am happy to see that you are more and more "evolving" away from the dark side and seeing the practical side of the proposed gun control measures.
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That link is rather long, so I have only checked to see how others viewed it.

But I finally started reading it.

While he gives points on how to make better arguments for gun control, he does not seem to support or offer any gun control measures that he would support.

The idea we already have background checks is to say the least a bit of a joke.

To say as he does:

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The “gun show loophole” you’ve heard so much about simply means that private individuals can sell a gun to each other without asking the federal government for permission. Which is to say that I don’t have to pay $150 (the cost for a check in D.C.) to ask the FBI whether a family member or friend to whom I would like to lend my shotgun for a hunting trip is a convicted felon.


is more than laughable, as I think a post about folks buying guns in Indiana and bringing them into Chicago does.  Even if that isn't the case, there have been shows showing folks at guns shows having whole businesses around the idea of selling guns without a background check, even having someone buying a gun saying he probably could not pass a background check and still being sold a gun.

His points about the confusion about assault weapons and automatic and semi-automatic while correct (though I am not sure about Bloomberg etc.), which needs to be addressed, and why talk has moved on about magazines clips etc.  I think the public is amazed that semi-automatic weapons can fire so many bullets so quickly, and is what they want limited.That requiring one to pull the trigger for each round fired does not do that, means some other way of limiting that is needed (such as magazines etc.)  His idea that those who know about guns is a good one, and I am sure there are some gun owners who could do that.
I think the NRA hasn't offered any.  I think for some it is easier to just use the phrase "assault weapon".  I saw someone on the other side, just concede we don't want assault weapons rather than have people think she was for them, by trying to correct this point.

Slippery slope , take guns away?  I suppose there could be some merit to that, but I am not sure not permitting reasonable rules is the answer.


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http://www.gunshowundercover2009.org/

google to find more info


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael....81.html

http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/gun-show-loophole

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A loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.


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