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I was very happy to hear Charles Barkley say this in response to Jason Collins coming out. I'm also grateful to see that a majority of my fellow citizens recognize we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Biblical Theocracy.

Freedom only rings when it's for every one of us consenting adults.


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I was very happy to hear Charles Barkley say this in response to Jason Collins coming out. I'm also grateful to see that a majority of my fellow citizens recognize we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Biblical Theocracy.

Freedom only rings when it's for every one of us consenting adults.

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And I'm proud to have a President who recognizes all of this as well (he called Collins today).


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Agree.

And anyone who thinks that Collins won't take abuse from some people over this is living in a fantasy land. Probably the same people that think we are living in a post-race and post-class society.

Uh, no: we're not.
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I was very happy to hear Charles Barkley say this in response to Jason Collins coming out. I'm also grateful to see that a majority of my fellow citizens recognize we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Biblical Theocracy.

Freedom only rings when it's for every one of us consenting adults.

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And hopefully we can all go back to not caring about this man's sexual preference

Soon


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Soon

Thank you.  I also look forward to the day when a person's sexual orientation does not warrant public discussion.
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And hopefully we can all go back to not caring about this man's sexual preference

Soon

And I'm sure we will, once human rights are no longer conditional on affectional orientation.

Which is to say, your desire to maintain discriminatory practices serves to delay the event for which you claim to hope.


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Thank you.  I also look forward to the day when a person's sexual orientation does not warrant public discussion.

And, of course, the fastest way to achieve that would be to treat people of all sexual orientations the same, including having the same legal rights and responsibilities, etc.

Your post can be read a couple different ways, so the following may or may not apply:

The idea of straight people saying that non-straight people should stop talking about sexual orientation is a little like slave owners telling the slaves to quit their bitching.
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Thank you.  I also look forward to the day when a person's sexual orientation does not warrant public discussion.

And, of course, the fastest way to achieve that would be to treat people of all sexual orientations the same, including having the same legal rights and responsibilities, etc.

GMTA.  :;):

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The idea of straight people saying that non-straight people should stop talking about sexual orientation is a little like slave owners telling the slaves to quit their bitching.

+1.  Exactly right.


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In Collins' own words:

"I wish I wasn't the kid in the classroom raising his hand and saying, "I'm different." If I had my way, someone else would have already done this. Nobody has, which is why I'm raising my hand."

The Sports Illustrated article by Jason Collins:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazin....-player


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I'm guessing his ex-fiancee of eight years is wishing he raised his hand a little sooner.  Or more likely he had decided which team he was on at that point.
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Let's see which team picks him up.  I hear he is a free agent.

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Why the need to come out?  The mental image of him sodomizing his boyfriend is extremely unpleasant.  Keep it to yourself.

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Why the need to come out?  The mental image of him sodomizing his boyfriend is extremely unpleasant.  Keep it to yourself.

Any time someone sees a man or a woman with a wedding ring, they are forced to contemplate disgusting acts of heterosexual depravity in ultra-lurid detail.

By your logic, anyway. By Earth logic...maybe not so much (whatever the person's affectional orientation).


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Why the need to come out?  The mental image of him sodomizing his boyfriend is extremely unpleasant.  Keep it to yourself.

The "need" to come out comes from the fact a lot of intolerant ignoramuses suggest the actions of some consenting adults are comparable to rape or beastiality, and therefore subject to exclusion. Thank goodness language evolves with civility.

Fortunately such lunacy's days are not nearly as numbered as they were not too long ago.

This country will not succumb to the ignorant hatred of those that think the Republic is weak enough to destroy. The words of our founders honoring inclusion will not be misrepresented by these ignoramuses much longer at all. The unAmerican among us always have Saudi Arabia if honoring our true creed becomes to much for them.


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Why the need to come out?  The mental image of him sodomizing his boyfriend is extremely unpleasant.  Keep it to yourself.

You're joking, right?

Any time a straight person hold's their partner's hand in public, or speaks in even the most casual way about their spouse, or displays pictures of their family at their workspace, or portrays their family with those vomitrocious stick-figure decals on the back of their car, they are ramming their heterosexuality down everyone's throat, by your logic.
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Why the need to come out?  The mental image of him sodomizing his boyfriend is extremely unpleasant.  Keep it to yourself.

You're joking, right?

Any time a straight person hold's their partner's hand in public, or speaks in even the most casual way about their spouse, or displays pictures of their family at their workspace, or portrays their family with those vomitrocious stick-figure decals on the back of their car, they are ramming their heterosexuality down everyone's throat, by your logic.

You have issues.  Do those stick figures really bother you that much?

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I'm thinking that if you are picturing the act of sodomy anytime someone says they are gay, that you may be the one with issues.

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Why the need to come out?  The mental image of him sodomizing his boyfriend is extremely unpleasant.  Keep it to yourself.

That you immediately create that "mental image" has totally to do with you.

Thank you for sharing.
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I'm thinking that if you are picturing the act of sodomy anytime someone says they are gay, that you may be the one with issues.

Oh yeah, like that doesn't cross YOUR mind.

I was raised not to discuss personal sexual predilections.  It seems like a reasonable and civil way to go through life.  Outing yourself and proclaiming to the world that you are a booty bandit is really beyond the pale.


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I'm thinking that if you are picturing the act of sodomy anytime someone says they are gay, that you may be the one with issues.

Oh yeah, like that doesn't cross YOUR mind.

I was raised not to discuss personal sexual predilections.  It seems like a reasonable and civil way to go through life.  Outing yourself and proclaiming to the world that you are a booty bandit is really beyond the pale.

So whenever you see former President George H. W. Bush and his wife Barbara Bush your immediate goto is an image of they're all naked and sweaty going at "the act"?

:)

HYOH on that one.
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I'm thinking that if you are picturing the act of sodomy anytime someone says they are gay, that you may be the one with issues.

Oh yeah, like that doesn't cross YOUR mind.

I was raised not to discuss personal sexual predilections.  It seems like a reasonable and civil way to go through life.  Outing yourself and proclaiming to the world that you are a booty bandit is really beyond the pale.

If the very mention of someone's affectional orientation makes you fantasize about them having sex, and if that repulses you, then you have some emotional issues that are way too serious for anyone here to deal with.

And you want to know what's way too much information? Knowing about the existence of your emotional issues.

Way beyond the pale, dude. Try to be a decent human being for once and just shut the hell up.


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