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This is a story documenting that 75% of American public school teachers have students coming to class hungry, in spite of pretty much universal free meal programs in those schools.

At the same time, 100%  of those American public school teachers have obese students in their classes!

How do we reconcile, and correct, this picture???

Three-quarters of America’s teachers have students who routinely show up to school hungry and half say hunger is a serious problem in their classrooms, according to No Kid Hungry’s annual educator survey. The numbers represent a significant jump from last summer, when about three in five teachers surveyed routinely taught hungry kids.

The report also notes that free- and reduced-price breakfast programs are hugely under-enrolled. Twenty-one million kids eat school lunch, but just 11 million eat school breakfast. Previous research has shown that child hunger has a profound impact on educational achievement. Closing the school breakfast gap by just half would produce over 3 million kids with higher test scores and over 800,000 more high school graduates. Hungry kids are at far greater risk of emotional and psychological problems that undermine their education, are far more likely to drop out of high school, and struggle to keep up with the cognitive development of their adequately-fed peers.


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Is this primarily a parenting problem??

I have experienced this same thing while tutoring first graders in reading every year.  Some of the boys most in need of reading help show up at school without breakfast, and do not bother to get there for the free breakfast.

I started bringing fairly nutritious granola bars in my bag, and stealing a carton of milk or juice from the lunch ladies, so that these guys could wake up and use their brains.

What is wrong with parents who don't provide breakfast, and don't even get the kid there for a free breakfast??

Is there any way to change such behavior??


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Stigma.  Every kid knows which others are getting Free Lunches, and Free Breakfasts.  There is more than a little peer pressure to at least act like your family doesn't need the programs.  

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Depends on the school.  My wife's school about 75-80% qualify for free or reduced lunch.  I cannot speak to the breakfast numbers as I have never asked.  But plenty of kids every single day show up late for first period (K-5) because mama and or daddy or grandma or grandpa can't get out of bed either.  And don't slam me like they got home late from their midnight shift.  That's BS.

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ps. my point is there is no stigma to being the kid on welfare like it might be at some schools.

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Schools have to learn to teach the kids they have if they ever expect to be force in changing the next generation.

I'm tired of hearing teachers complain that they can't get results because their students don't have parents engaged in their education, or parents who can even read, or any parents at all.

Time to man up and figure out how to teach those children as they are because it ain't going to change in this generation.  Maybe we need attendce officers on ever bus who stop by the house to get the kids off to school even if the parents don't.  maybe we have to have free breakfast and lunch in the schools.  Maybe we need to train teachers to teach students with the most challenging circumstances instead of complaining that their parents are not pitching in.

Teachers who can't teach the children they have are in the wrong job.  It doesn't mean that they are bad teachers, it just means that particular job is not for them and they should leave it and seek employment elsewhere.
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I haven't been hungry since I learned to operate a can opener.  My parents had to get up early to keep me from eating everything in the house.  If today's kids are going to school hungry it due to laziness.  They probably need to lose weight.

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Stigma doesn't explain obesity, does it?

My guess:  kids eating the wrong kinds of food?


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The public education system is (still) broken

In Chicago we now have 3000 volunteers that are "escorting" kids through supposed gang territory so they can get to a different school because their school was closed because it had very low attendence. Mostly because the neighborhoods were unsafe and smart, mobile families moved away but I digress.

A local station was interviewing volunteers and stdents as they walked to school on the first day....despite the fact that school started at 8 am the volunteers expected most of the volume to be between 8-9 am

So maybe they can't show up on time for breakfast

One student interviewed (because he was on time for school) explained that he went to the parochial school across the street from the local school because you actually had a chance to learn there.....because they actually enforced some form of discipline

In short, it was a safe and orderly place to learn


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We can't change the future unless we can change the present. It's not the kids fault that their parents aren't taking care of them.

Just as it is in the case of parents who prefer not to give their children proper medical care, the state, as the representative of the population as a whole, has an interest in seeing that such a cycle is broken - especially in a country that is supposedly a democracy. Every child needs to have at least the opportunity to participate on an equal footing.
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Every child needs to have at least the opportunity to participate on an equal footing.

I agree completely, just don't know whether we are capable of getting the job done.

Given that we have a Congress that can do absolutely nothing, unless it is a fix for the big corporations, it doesn't seem very likely.  But, we have muddled through worse crises than this one, so maybe we will pull it out in the long run.  

Hope springs eternal!


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Given that we have a Congress that can do absolutely nothing, unless it is a fix for the big corporations, it doesn't seem very likely...

Totally off tangent and apologies upfront to both of you.

Just an observation (so please don't get too upset) -- reading comments like this here and elsewhere... WHY is it that so many Americans take such a dim view of the altruism and efficiency of our government in pretty much all domestic affairs -- and then place such blindingly bright faith toward the same political leadership when it comes to its foreign policies?

If you view our government's record as so checkered here at home -- why would you advocate our government shoot missiles or even place ground troops to the hundreds of thousands abroad -- and expect clear, selfless results?

Regime change is easy (we out-muscle everybody else) -- but nation building?  Like the last few administrations have done such a bang up job here at home?  We didn't get clear results at all in Iraq or Afghanistan; and yet, the faith of so many Americans remain so rock solid -- just so long as it isn't about anything on the domestic side!  I don't get it.  I really don't.

End of rant.  Another apology to you.


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