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You all make me sick. Continue with your petty, meaningless, pathetic exchanges. You're making a difference in the world, really, you are.

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Well, I fall squarely into neither category, but I think that some really good discussions actually take place here, and a lot of us try to do our best to actually support what we're saying.

One of my favorite sayings is "clarity over agreement." I'd at least like to hear another opinion, even if I don't end up being convinced by it. That's a Dennis Praeger saying, so I can't take credit for it.


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It appears like most discussions involve conservatives making bogus, unsubstantiated statements, with the liberal response being to beg for substantiation. Pretty pointless altogether.

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What a whiny bitch.

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And not very observant, either. Plenty of substatiation in these threads debunking rightwing bogus statements, if one bothers reading past the snark and comedy.

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Posters with viewpoints other than liberal/democrat post citations / substantiation too, thanks.

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It appears like most discussions involve conservatives making bogus, unsubstantiated statements, with the liberal response being to beg for substantiation. Pretty pointless altogether.

That's a total strawman argument and you know it.
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It appears like most discussions involve conservatives making bogus, unsubstantiated statements, with the liberal response being to beg for substantiation. Pretty pointless altogether.

Prove it!    Link?
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Holy cow!

You've been particularly edgy lately, amigo.  Not enough fiber in your diet?

Let me buy you a bran muffin.  Heck, I'll even throw in an REI gift card.   :)
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Apparently something happened to interrupt the blue meth source in Boulder!

What a tragedy.

Don't worry, the cookers will soon be dug out of the flood and life will go on, maybe a slight bump in price.


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Well, I fall squarely into neither category, but I think that some really good discussions actually take place here, and a lot of us try to do our best to actually support what we're saying.

One of my favorite sayings is "clarity over agreement." I'd at least like to hear another opinion, even if I don't end up being convinced by it. That's a Dennis Praeger saying, so I can't take credit for it.


Well said! I agree - especially with the, "I'd at least like to hear another opinion, even if I don't end up being convinced by it."
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You're absolutely right.
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Maybe this will help calm down your rage, Remi.
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Over on another board I frequent-which has nothing to do with politics, either, but plenty of posts about it, just switch right-wing for left-wing, and the arguments almost sound identical.
I submit that each board is preaching to it's own choir.


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Cases in point.

Nice.

Givin' that Boulda love to ya'll out thea.

WWest, would you like to explain your interesting reaction?


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There are a lot of people here who have a lot of intelligent things to say.

Unfortunately, there is no one listening to anything they say.

The liberals are all in agreement.

The conservatives are all in agreement.  Throw in a few nuts, just to shake things up.

But in the end, no one is going to change anyone's mind.  They're basically just pissin in the wind.
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But in the end, no one is going to change anyone's mind.


Not so in my experience. Posts in this forum have changed, and more often swayed, my opinions on issues. And I think that is true with many who post here.

Most who post here respect and value different opinions - although there are a few with the agenda of singling out and ganging up and running off posters just for kicks. But by far the general attitude is that well thought out opinions are considered and supporting links are encouraged to validate those opinions. The result is that most who post here think through and research their posts.

The well thought out and logical debate that follows is the reason that I frequent this forum.

I also have to take issue with buzzards comment:
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My experience with this forum is that there are still plenty of differing views and opinions. But I think that buzzards is right about many of the other boards. In those other boards those who single out and gang up and run off posters because they have a different opinion have been successful. Their success has meant that their boards end up being composed of dopplegangers who echo each other - boring!

There has been some of that here in the past. But most of the people who chat here understand this and the few troublemakers have not been successful of late. I think that the loss of Pros a few years ago shocked many and enlightened TPA regulars to this strategy of singling out, ganging up, and running off.

The result has been that this forum remains populated by people of different views who for the most part are respectful of each others' opinions and INTERESTED in understanding differing points of view. Personal attacks, name calling, and obnoxiousness are correctly seen as strategies used when a person has no valid point to make by most here. This means that this is one of the most civil forums where debate points and persuasion skills reign.
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Don't forget about the libertarians. They get mad when include or don't include them in anything.
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Good grief Rem get over yourself. This is an internet forum, not an exercise in political scholarship. Get a life dude. Nobody is here to make a difference or change the world. Everybody is here to chat, voice opinions, screw around and basically pass the time.

It's our social primate inheritance at work.

You take all of this way, way too serious. If politics bothers you sooo much why and the hell do you spend time here, of all places?
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And FWIW, I have not spent much time here until recently because I have spent the better part of a decade or so on academic type forums, where nearly everybody is credentialed, the debates are serious usually, and points do change peoples ways of thinking.

This forum is really a light weight exercise. Thus the sarcastic humor from me generally.

I have for many years now had routine daily discussions with Theoretical Physicists., PHD'd Psychologists and Neuroscientists, Biologists, Philosophy professors and students and other assorted scholarly type 'folks'

So if anybody here wants real heavy discussions or serious ones that ARE trying to make a difference find one of those.

Dudes, this just ain't it.
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He hasn't gotten any in a while.
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It's called the "Hawaiian Disease". Lakkanuki.

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It is humerous actually. Thus from now on I expect only peer-reviewed literature to be posted here for all to view.

By god we backpackers will change the world! Or at least understand those that do.
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It's called the "Hawaiian Disease". Lakkanuki.

Best post in ages.

In all seriousness I do not see many ACTUAL liberals or conservatives here. Many here perceived as "liberals" actually demonstrate kens long considered to be MODERATE  before Ronald Reagan's election. Since then the political center of this country has shifted so far to the right real conservatives have just about all been wiped out. Real conservatives would have never waged "war" without even considering how to fund it. Real conservatives would never have lapplauded one POTUS rack up obscene debt in non-recessionary economies but condemed another POTUS for relatively feeble stimuli after inheriting the worst financial crisis this county has known since Hoover.


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Agreed that arguing politics online is a virtual Mexican stand off, preceded by copious amounts of mental masturbation.

If as much energy went into solving problems as goes into these debates, we might get somewherez.


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What are you idiots even babbling about? See what I did there? Personal attacks. TPA way.

Tamarac: It is the folks who frequent TPA 7 days a week that need lives. I have plenty of life to live  -thank you for the concern.


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