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Posted on: Feb. 11 2012, 2:02 pm |
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I read that mountain house is going to offer 3 or 4 low sodium freeze dried entrees in 2012.
has anyone seen these for sale on the shelf anywhere?
i would like to try out each type without buying a whole case.
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Posted on: Feb. 11 2012, 8:57 pm |
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nope... that's why I make my own packets. I may have to cook a bit more, but I control what's going in.
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I might have to start fixing stuff up myself too. I dont worry tooo much about salt, I figure atleast on a hot summer hike our daily limit should be quite a bit higher than normal, but there is also a lot of other unhealthy stuff in the prepared meals. Since many on here recommended one particular brand I planned on trying them on my next trips and dont want to say anything bad about them yet but their ingredient list (while containing lots of good foods and spices) contains quite a lot of bad or debatable stuff. For example hydrogenated oils & trans fats, bleached flour, artifical flavor, sodium aluminum phosphate, bht, dipotassium phosphate etc etc. Is there no freeze dried trail food thats healthy?
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2012, 5:35 pm |
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(Dicentra @ Feb. 14 2012, 11:03 am)
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(schmittdas @ Feb. 11 2012, 5:57 pm)
QUOTE nope... that's why I make my own packets. I may have to cook a bit more, but I control what's going in. +1
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Long before the internet became popular, I was given the book "Hungry Hiker's Book of Good Cooking" by Gretchen McHugh in the '80's as a Christmas present and have never bought another "name brand" prepackaged meal since.
"Drying it and liking it since the 80's."
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sarbar
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2012, 6:57 pm |
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Once you make your own meals you never want to go back!!
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2012, 7:18 pm |
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(swimswithtrout @ Feb. 14 2012, 10:35 am)
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(Dicentra @ Feb. 14 2012, 11:03 am)
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(schmittdas @ Feb. 11 2012, 5:57 pm)
QUOTE nope... that's why I make my own packets. I may have to cook a bit more, but I control what's going in. +1 +2 Long before the internet became popular, I was given the book "Hungry Hiker's Book of Good Cooking" by Gretchen McHugh in the '80's as a Christmas present and have never bought another "name brand" prepackaged meal since. "Drying it and liking it since the 80's."
I agree with all above.
That cookbook is one of the very best older cookbooks you can get for backpacking. We use it weekly it seems. She covers an amazing amount of ground from drying individual items to building your own dehydrator or explaining how to use your own oven for drying. She talks about cooking fires as well as vintage stoves. There are some great recipes. I even like the color of the paper and the story on the font she chose.
There are a few other good old cookbooks for backpacking published in the mid-70s too, The Well-Fed Backpacker by June Fleming. She has an approach that is very good for making an almost endless list of intuitive meals and recipes. She calls it her One Liner meals.
Another decent mid-70s backpacking cookbook is Simple Foods for the Pack. With cozy pot cooking one can use things like rice and red lentils and only boil them for a couple of minutes.
Add the advice and recipes of the resident cooking experts here and you really don't have to consume anything you have not made up with all known ingredients by yourself.
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Posted on: Feb. 16 2012, 1:03 pm |
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The only shortcut I take is to get freeze dried precooked scrambled eggs to add to instant potatoes for breakfast.
Blech, not egg tasting at all. Just some variety that has protein. Light tho.
Couscous, dehydrated leftovers and Harmony House for the win!
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Posted on: Feb. 16 2012, 1:49 pm |
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(Adirondackiteer @ Feb. 14 2012, 2:33 pm)
QUOTE I might have to start fixing stuff up myself too. I dont worry tooo much about salt, I figure atleast on a hot summer hike our daily limit should be quite a bit higher than normal, but there is also a lot of other unhealthy stuff in the prepared meals. Since many on here recommended one particular brand I planned on trying them on my next trips and dont want to say anything bad about them yet but their ingredient list (while containing lots of good foods and spices) contains quite a lot of bad or debatable stuff. For example hydrogenated oils & trans fats, bleached flour, artifical flavor, sodium aluminum phosphate, bht, dipotassium phosphate etc etc. Is there no freeze dried trail food thats healthy?
If you're lazy like me, try Hawk Vittles.
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Posted on: Feb. 16 2012, 2:32 pm |
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(WalksWithBlackflies @ Feb. 16 2012, 1:49 pm)
QUOTE If you're lazy like me, try Hawk Vittles.
Yeah I do want to try them. I am suspicious of their ingredients list, thinking it isnt showing all the little extras. But will definitely give them a try, they are one that comes up here from time to time.
I would like to cook, but I admit to either being lazy, or not smart enough to prepare stuff ahead of time, or wanting to carry less weight. I just got a whitebox stove and a GSI Ketalist so plan on mainly doing instant type stuff that I just pour water into the bag. I would later like to get a pot I can do baking in though, muffins and breads look delicious from the pics I have seen (and everything tastes even better on a mountain, of course).
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Posted on: Feb. 16 2012, 3:52 pm |
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Just make your own like others have suggested. My wife and I make all of our own meals up using various recipes as she can't have anything with over 6 grams of sugar in them. A lot of the MH and other brands are very high not only in salt but also sugar. So we just make our own dehydrated meals, at least we know whatis in them that way.
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Posted on: Feb. 22 2012, 3:31 pm |
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thanks to High_Sierra_Fan for at least trying to answer my question.
i will have to keep an eye out at the backpacking stores.
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Posted on: Feb. 22 2012, 3:40 pm |
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I am sure they will show up eventually........but I am not waiting excited for them 
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Posted on: Mar. 11 2012, 3:01 pm |
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I'd be curious as to what MH considers low sodium...The new entrees are not listed under the nutrician tables on the MH site, as of yet...
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Love how it is 2 1/2 servings.....yet the whole bag is under 600 calories - so lets call it what it is: ONE serving at 750 or so mg sodium. The "serving size" is done small so it comes under 300 mg per cup.....
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Posted on: Mar. 12 2012, 12:10 pm |
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They've not really modified their "serving" size: it's a straight "1 cup" across their line as far as I can tell from a random poke at the REI pages for a variety of their entrees
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http://www.rei.com/product....ervings
and the sodium is quite a bit reduced from their other offerings, 50% and more, which I expect is the point.
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Posted on: Mar. 12 2012, 12:44 pm |
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True...but as I said - who eats "1 cup". Maybe a 100 lb woman....but not most men. They should call it a generous 1 person bag
I also hate how Mary Jane meals are 1 1/2 servings - really? Snort.
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Posted on: Mar. 12 2012, 2:39 pm |
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lol....no kidding. 1 ounce? Yeah right 
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Posted on: Mar. 12 2012, 7:50 pm |
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yep, a 2 serving MH dinner is a normal serving for me after a day of hiking which of course means I'm eating twice the sodium content listed...which also leads me to this- I wish online outfitters would show the back of the package so that I could see the numbers before buying... as a diabetic, I need to see carbs as well.
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Posted on: Mar. 12 2012, 9:32 pm |
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As soon as I saw the "serving size" for the "reduced" sodium version, I had to LOL.
Yes it's lower in salt than their typical meals, (though most people call them inedible garbage)
I don't know anyone that splits theirs 2.5 ways. Most people eat the whole package and still want more.
So, you're still getting ~ 750 mg + per meal.
Dry your own, no misleading advertising.
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Posted on: Mar. 13 2012, 12:57 pm |
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There are some MH entrees I don't care for but there are a fair number of others that are just fine for me.
On a related note did WeePak evaporate or change names or something? Even with all the presoaking and simmering they were a nice line of meals.
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