SUBSCRIBE | NEWSLETTERS | MAPS | VIDEOS | BLOGS | MARKETPLACE | CONTESTS
TRY BACKPACKER FREE!
SUBSCRIBE NOW and get
2 Free Issues and 3 Free Gifts!
Full Name:
Address 1:
Address 2:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Email: (required)
If I like it and decide to continue, I'll pay just $12.00, and receive a full one-year subscription (9 issues in all), a 73% savings off the newsstand price! If for any reason I decide not to continue, I'll write "cancel" on the invoice and owe nothing.
Your subscription includes 3 FREE downloadable booklets.
Or click here to pay now and get 2 extra issues
Offer valid in US only.


» Welcome Guest
[ Log In :: Register ]

 

[ Track This Topic :: Email This Topic :: Print this topic ]

reply to topic new topic new poll
Topic: Rim fire closes Tioga Toad as of Wednesdsy.< Next Oldest | Next Newest >
 Post Number: 1
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 27 2013, 11:00 pm  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

It keeps growing into the park. Quite sad.

http://inciweb.org/incident/3660/
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 2
EGreno Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 46
Joined: Jul. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 28 2013, 8:01 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Pray for rain and keeping all those folks safe.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 3
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 29 2013, 1:05 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

The park put together a time lapse video of he fire.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v....outu.be
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 4
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 30 2013, 4:12 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

The tide seems to have turned, it isn't growing as erratically as it did early on, and it's now 32% contained

But...  warmer and dryer weather is arriving this weekend :p


--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 5
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 30 2013, 4:26 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I saw from the  progression map that's what it looked like.
http://inciweb.org/incident/map/3660/3/

Yeah the forecast all the way out isn't great in that regard. Lot's of 0% for precipitation with all of two 10% one tomorrow and then one in a week...

All things considered at 6.4% of the park so far it could have been worse had the initial start point been further south...
http://inciweb.org/incident/article/3660/21066/
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 6
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 31 2013, 9:53 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I think they'll get it buttoned up in a week or so...  5,000 of the best firefighters in the world on it now.

--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 7
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 31 2013, 1:03 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Here's hoping nature gives them a break and everyone stays safe. That's a lot of air effort in challenging circumstances to say the least, went to university with a guy who went into air firefighting (lifetime pilot, his parents owned a flight school) as more challenging than military flying.

They're buring on a line From Harden Lake south to a Tioga Road. That's starting to look like PatecValley might get involved. Very nice place so that would be sad. Great trees.

A bit bad the winds shifted more towards the central portion of the park both for impacting the visitors and perhaps pushing the fire more towards the Tuolumne Grove etc.
http://www.nps.gov/common....RL=http
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 8
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 31 2013, 1:26 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

An interesting article by one of my favorite writers

How Journalists Should Really Cover Wildfires

http://www.kcet.org/news....t.html#

"Set aside the concept that fires inevitably, irreparably destroy forests and consider instead the idea that fire may have regenerative capacity. This simple switch of terms would compel us -- writers and readers -- to discover that there is a long history of high-intensity fires in the Sierra Nevada Mountains and that they have served, as this one will, a critical ecological function."


--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 9
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 31 2013, 4:25 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Their in agency sources would probably be very nervous should the nation read they're writing a billion dollar firefighting check to thwart a critical ecological function.

I hadn't read anything else of the authors but that had been linked to in a tweet I'd read so I had seen, and agreed with it.

"The first step to securing that knowledge, the planet's best fire historian Stephen J. Pyne has repeatedly enjoined, is to complicate how we talk about fire"

"Complicate" both the answer, and the rub.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 10
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 01 2013, 1:56 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

40% contained, 5100+ personnel now (we just sent a strike team of engines up there)

--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 11
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 02 2013, 10:32 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

60% contained and now they're demobing personnel...  down to 4,600 people - that's a good sign

--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 12
paula53 Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 954
Joined: Feb. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 02 2013, 8:26 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Thank you Tarol for all the updates.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 13
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 05 2013, 6:29 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

80%

--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 14
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 05 2013, 9:16 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

They're still worried about it moving to the southeast further into the park.

Hope the wind stays opposing that.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 15
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 06 2013, 12:51 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Spot fires have jumped over Tioga Road.

Bummer.

http://inciweb.org/incident/3660/
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 16
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 06 2013, 3:43 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

They re-opened 120 from the park westward

http://www.inciweb.org/incident/article/3660/21330/


--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 17
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 07 2013, 1:05 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

"Spotfires were contained today along the fire’s northern flank near Clavey Meadow. Firefighters also contained several small spotfires on the fire’s southeast flank along Tioga Road/State Route 120."

--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 18
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 09 2013, 2:48 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Tioga Pass Resort is closing very early for the season (this coming weekend), I imagine a lot of local businesses like them have taken a beating with this fire.
Next year's their hundredth anniversary!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 19
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 10 2013, 12:07 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

The Rim fire BAER assessment for rehab of the damage etc.

http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos....0-0.pdf

ETA. Sorry, I expected details.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 20
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 13 2013, 3:43 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

They're prepping for the next phase:
"RIM BAER UPDATE
September 10 2013
Status Update of Rim Post-Fire BAER Assessment Efforts
The Rim post-fire Burned Area Emergency Response (BAER) team composed of soil scientists hydrologists engineers geologists archaeologists biologists range specialists geographic information specialists botanists recreation specialists and others were assembled and met on Monday September 9. The team met with representatives from the Stanislaus National Forest and received a briefing on the current fire status outlook for the fire and a presentation on safety for working within the burn area."
http://inciweb.org/incident/article/3726/21462/

While the fire is still active:
http://inciweb.org/incident/3660/
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 21
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 14 2013, 7:51 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Road's open!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 22
hbfa Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 8210
Joined: Feb. 2002
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 14 2013, 11:04 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(High_Sierra_Fan @ Sep. 14 2013, 4:51 pm)
QUOTE
Road's open!

Story
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 23
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 14 2013, 11:51 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

And the photo accompanying the story? A Valley shot of Half Dome!

Oh well fewer crowds in the good part of the park. :)
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 24
paula53 Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 954
Joined: Feb. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 15 2013, 9:18 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

The weather is still good, great time to get out and hike the Meadows. Fewer people, no bugs and great scenery.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 25
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 18 2013, 3:41 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

It's now been burning for over a month. Amazing.

http://inciweb.org/incident/3660/
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 26
balzaccom Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 570
Joined: Dec. 2010
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 19 2013, 11:20 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Yes--threatening the Beehive, as it has for days.

And the erosion that will come in such steep terrain with the winter rains will not be pretty.


--------------
Balzaccom

Check out our blog and website:  

http://sites.google.com/site/backpackthesierra/home
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 27
High_Sierra_Fan Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 42752
Joined: Aug. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 21 2013, 10:53 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

A preliminary report on how some wildfire fuels mitigation effort areas acted during the Rim fire:
http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5436551.pdf
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 28
tarol Search for posts by this member.
Well I never!
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 11033
Joined: Mar. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 26 2013, 12:10 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE

A very good read  - the Ecological Importance of the Rim Fire

http://www.calaverasenterprise.com/opinion....f4.html

"The new scientific data is telling us that we need not fear fire in our forests. Fire is doing important and beneficial ecological work and we need more of it, including the occasional large, intense fires. Nor do we need to balance home protection with the restoration of fire’s role in our forests. The two are not in conflict. We do, however, need to muster the courage to transcend our fears and outdated assumptions about fire. Our forest ecosystems will be better for it."


--------------
Got elevation? www.tarol.com
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
27 replies since Aug. 27 2013, 11:00 pm < Next Oldest | Next Newest >

[ Track This Topic :: Email This Topic :: Print this topic ]


 
reply to topic new topic new poll

» Quick Reply Rim fire closes Tioga Toad as of Wednesdsy.
iB Code Buttons
You are posting as:

Do you wish to enable your signature for this post?
Do you wish to enable emoticons for this post?
Track this topic
View All Emoticons
View iB Code



Get 2 FREE Trial Issues and 3 FREE GIFTS
Survival Skills 101 • Eat Better
The Best Trails in America
YES! Please send me my FREE trial issues of Backpacker
and my 3 FREE downloadable booklets.
Full Name:
City:
Address 1:
Zip Code:
State:
Address 2:
Email (required):
Free trial offer valid for US subscribers only. Canadian subscriptions | International subscriptions