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While looking at the NGS map of the Fontana/hiawassee area, saw that there was a trail. Fax branch, number 155....

It's not on the tellico NGS map....

Anyone have any info on this trail?

Or have hiked it?
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U be making that up. ;^D Wow. What a name!

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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 03 2013, 10:45 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

There's a trail in the Kilmer/Slickrock wilderness called the Horsecove Branch trail #155 which starts at the road which goes to and deadends at Maple Springs (1127).

It parallels the Jenkins Meadow trail and goes along Horse Cove Creek and then veers north towards Rock Creek knob and the Haoe Lead trail but deadends 700 feet below and looks to be a marked trail made from an old logging cut.  It's on my paper Kilmer/Citico map.

The trailhead is just a mile from Santeetlah Lake near Robbinsville, NC.


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Why would I make it up?      Just reading what's on the map....

Yeah tipi that's the same trail.....it's listed on NGS map 784 Fontana but not on NGS 781 tellico map....


You ever done it?
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Hey Kevin
I do not have any idea about #155. just wanted to jump in, & let you know that. I was looking at doing a fly fishing trip up & down eagle & hazel creek after  mothers day next month, you interested?


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I haven't done it as if it's anything like the unmaintained Haoe Lead trail then it's hellish.  Plus, it's not on most maps and so you know the forest service could care less.  Plus, the thing deadends which tells me it's a trail to nowhere unless you like bushwacking.

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Chief---let me get back to ya on that one.......remind me when it gets closer.....I haven't been in the park camping in a number of months now....

Yup---tipi, since its not on many maps---that's what appeals to me.....I wonder what is at the deadens.../

And yeah---I figured since the trail is not really listed anymore---it would be overgrown and what not......

I've only been on that road passing through horse cove once and didn't really look for that particular trailhead but scouting out the other trailheads....

So haoe lead is overgrown?     I'm looking at doing that one in the next month or so and was wondering about campsite areas and water sources along it......

And speaking of maintaining and/or building trails----I was heading down from big fat gap parking lot last Sunday and maybe a mile or so down from it, on the left; saw some flagging ribbons that lead up a hill and looks like someone is cutting a new trail along it....

Anyone know anything about this one as well?
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I haven't backpacked the Haoe Lead trail in a year or so---so my info may be dated as I think SAWS came out recently and might have tackled it.  The worst part is way past the Deep Creek trail jct and about a mile before reaching the Jenkins Meadow jct.  After the Jenkins jct the Haoe Lead trail is fairly excellent.

I just came down the Big Fat Trail a couple weeks ago and know the forest service likes to mark problem and/or dead hemlock trees with ribbons to designate some kind of recovery program and they do this on the Big Fat trail.  I doubt seriously they'd be into cutting any new trails.  But after they clearcut an acre on Hangover Mt in 2007 to land a helicopter, it would not surprise me if they decide to clearcut and log out Big Fat Creek or Slickrock Creek.  I know, it's a designated wilderness and all---just tell the forest boys that.


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The one I was referring to is off the road coming from the parking lot....

If one left the parking lot heading towards 129, maybe a mile or two down the road, there's a distinct cut of new trail.....

I wasn't in the mood to scope it out other than seeing that it lead a couple hundred yards up a hill with ribbon and looks like its been cut with something like a Pulaski......
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Hey Kevin
I do not have any idea about #155. just wanted to jump in, & let you know that. I was looking at doing a fly fishing trip up & down eagle & hazel creek after  mothers day next month, you interested?

Chief, not trying to jump in on your invite, but I will be doing a long weekend of fly fishing after mothers day as well.  If you aren't dead set on the Park, & might be interested in Cherokee or Nantahala NF, shoot me a PM and maybe we can get together.
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i hiked haoe lead over labor day 2010 and it was crazy overgrown... as in can't see your feet for long stretches. the trail wasn't too hard to follow, even so -- stays on top of the ridge the whole way if i'm remembering correctly. i'll check my GPS log this weekend and let ya know if i flagged any campsites... there're definitely some up near jenkins meadow junction

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Ultra----I was going to suggest to chief that he'd do some fishing along north Citico creek and then I'd definitely join him.....

As for haoe lead----I know of a campsite along Jenkins meadow trail maybe a tenth of a mile from the intersection....I've done and up and down along Jenkins meadow and stayed there a few months ago....

I figure (as long as I can make it) go up haoe lead to hangover and spend night there and come down deep creek trail.....

But it's good to know what other campsites/water sources along way.......
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Ultra----I was going to suggest to chief that he'd do some fishing along north Citico creek and then I'd definitely join him.....

As for haoe lead----I know of a campsite along Jenkins meadow trail maybe a tenth of a mile from the intersection....I've done and up and down along Jenkins meadow and stayed there a few months ago....

I figure (as long as I can make it) go up haoe lead to hangover and spend night there and come down deep creek trail.....

But it's good to know what other campsites/water sources along way.......

From Maple Springs/Deep Creek jct on the Haoe Lead trail there's a spring flowing over a big rock way before reaching the terrible briars before the Jenkins Jct.

Past the Jenkins Jct on Haoe Lead there's the flat table land of the Meadow where there are several excellent campsites.  The biggest, flattest one has a pig seep water source down the north side of the ridge---the one facing Hangover Mt---and it makes the campsite perfect.  


Here's a nice rock overlook on the Haoe Lead trail as it heads up the mountain.


Here's a typical big rock formation on the Haoe Lead trail.  There are many such "whale" rocks.


Here's the main campsite on Haoe Lead past the Jenkins jct in the flat "meadows".


Here's the pig wallow water source right below the Haoe campsite.


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cool.......

i may stay at the meadows campsite, but if i can make it up to hangover, i may do that.......

this trip isnt for a little while (as in, not this weekend)......

i've got another route picked out for this weekend.....
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skunka the man-bear-pig-dog.
hikes like a man, looks like the rest.
RIP.
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is Shunka a chow dog?

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skunka the man-bear-pig-dog.
hikes like a man, looks like the rest.
RIP.

A moment of silence for the departed beloved.  Man-bear-pig dog about says it all.

Yes, he's a chow mix with something else.  Akita?  Lab?  Jeremiah Johnson?


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