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So last summer a great new map of Panthertown was printed. On the back of the map are several suggested day hikes, one of which is through the Bonas Defeat Gorge which looks amazing and sounds amazing.

On the map there are directions on where to park and how to go around a gate to the trail head. So the other day I went down there to check it out but saw a large sign that said, "Smile. If you trespass on this property you and your car will be photographed." So I turned around and left and did some more research to see if I needed permission to be there. Then I came across this online:

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7-30-12 - I just received an email with the following info. It is most important that you don't enter the gorge for any reason or at any time in the foreseeable future - you could die!

Beginning August 1, 2012, Duke Energy will start lowering Wolf Creek and Tanasee Creek Lakes to allow for the installation of a minimum flow valve in Wolf Lake that will provide additional downstream flow for aquatic habitat. Wolf Creek Lake will be lowered 50 feet from full pond and Tanasee Creek will be lowered to 21 ft from full pond to 79 feet and then allowed to spill water through the gate into the bypass reach known as Bonas Defeat. The normal target elevation for both throughout the summer is 7 feet below full. The access boat ramp on Wolf Creek Lake is expected to be unusable after August 7. The canoe / kayak access on Tanasee Creek Lake will be closed during the project’s duration for safety reasons.

http://www.ncwaterfalls.com/bonas1.htm

So if you happen to come across this map, be forewarned.
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I have done this trip. It was amazing.  I am happier than ever that I've already done it.  I was asked last Summer to go do it again by a fellow who passed away a month or so later.  R.I.P. Craig.  I had read all this info and shared it with him. I was concerned about him and got a vibe about him and his choices. I won't say more because I don't want to harm anyone. He is gone and there is nothing for it now.  Anyway... when we did this trip we had optimal LOW water levels.  The water levels were low and HAD BEEN LOW for awhile.  The likelihood of a water release was slim to none.   I would do it again, but only under the right conditions and not alone.  Right now the water levels would be guess your best. The risk with the work on the dam is quite a bit more.   The gates are controlled remotely from Charlotte NC.  This is high in the mountains.  You aren't supposed to be there to begin with.  They can't see you and can't help you if they pull the gates for a water release.    American Whitewater deemed this stretch of the river un-runnable the last time they did a test release.   Sorry you made that trip and  it bombed out on you. Thanks for a good warning though.

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Actually I did 15 miles earlier in the day and was swinging by there afterward to check this out so it was still a good day. Thanks.
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I'm sure glad to learn that!  There is so much to see and do in Western NC. There's always a good backup plan.  I go with plans A, B, C, D, E and F.
I am not as keen to do stuff that is trespassing or inordinately risky there when there is so much else I could do. I have got a never ending list of fun stuff for that area.


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Who put out this new map?

I've got the one Burt did but that was a few years ago....

Wonderin how different this one would be?
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He did this one too but it's waterproof and it's quite a bit different. A lot of trails on this one that are not on the other one.
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i have burt's one copyright 2009 and its waterproof-----has he done a more recent one?
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Maybe it's been out longer than I thought. I'd been using a paper non-waterproof one for years because it was the only one out when I bought it. The one I'm talking about mentions Bonas Defeat on the backside.  I thought I read that this one came out in 2013 but it could have been earlier.
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I went ahead and emailed him and below is the response...

Once I get some extra funds, I'm gonna get it to compare...


Kevin,
       The new map corrects errors in the old one, shows some new footpaths, IDs new waterfalls and overlooks and natural features.  I think it's a better product.
Burt

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On May 6, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Kevin Umberger wrote:

> hey burt...
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> i have a quick question for ya---- i have one of your map of panthertown that's copywrited 2009......noticed on your website that there is a new map----how different is the new map compared to the one i have?
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