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I have Baltoro 75 right now, but it's way too big. (Over estimated what  I would need.)

Looking at getting one of these:

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My dilemma is...

I want the Hornet 46 as it's the lightest, but still not sure if it will be big enough for my gear.

My winter sleeping bag will fit in the Exos 46 so I'm assuming the same with the Hornet 46. My problem is, how will I attack my tent to the outside of the pack? (Copper Spur 2)

Or is there another pack you would recommend?


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I think your first issue should be how does each one fit and feel. If you find the one that fits the best then figure out how it will accommodate your gear.

You could strap the tent to the outside of the pack on either side I suspect.

What winter sleeping bag are you using?


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I think your first issue should be how does each one fit and feel. If you find the one that fits the best then figure out how it will accommodate your gear.

You could strap the tent to the outside of the pack on either side I suspect.

What winter sleeping bag are you using?

Big Agnes Grouse Mountain +15

I'm sure the suspension will work in the hornet, but trying to figure out if my tent would be too bulky on the outside.


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I feel certain I don't have near the experience as yourself, so my anecdotes might not be terribly helpful.  With that caveat, I recently purchased a Talon 44 and used it with a bigger, bulkier REI Passage 2 tent. In my case, I folded the tent and fly (not using any stuff sack) and placed them on top of my sleeping bag, which was at the bottom of the pack. I placed the polls and stakes in one of the side pockets.  Worked great for me.  Love my Talon thus far.

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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 01 2012, 10:42 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Get a ULA Catalyst. Should fit inside. If not, make a long roll and stand it vertically in a side pocket.

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Over the years, I've learned to carry my tent on the outside in a variety of positions. On top under the lid or vertically on the side with my bladder opposite are my two most common places which give me the best balanced load and ease of access at the end of the trail. If you are on the road down the path to lighten your load and slim it, your gear will only get smaller at this point so I'd go with the smallest pack that still does the job. I use "lock down" straps to lash my gear or biners depending on the equipment so it can't loosen as I hike. Being off-trail, I need  to ensure my gear isn't going to come loose as I jump down off obstacles or as things get scraped off going under logs or fighting through brush.

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I feel certain I don't have near the experience as yourself, so my anecdotes might not be terribly helpful.  With that caveat, I recently purchased a Talon 44 and used it with a bigger, bulkier REI Passage 2 tent. In my case, I folded the tent and fly (not using any stuff sack) and placed them on top of my sleeping bag, which was at the bottom of the pack. I placed the polls and stakes in one of the side pockets.  Worked great for me.  Love my Talon thus far.

I'm sure I don't have anymore experience than you either. haha
I just happen to be starting out with more expensive gear than most. (Didn't pay full price though. Only way I could afford it.)


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Okay, here was what I'm thinking now.

REI is about to have a 20% off sale. Get the Exos 46 which I think will work. (If not, they have the 100% guarantee.)

In the winter time, I bet I could do a 3 day trip with my current gear and 5-7 day in summer. I doubt I'd do over a 3 day (for now), but who knows.
Instead of getting the hornet 46 and trying to find weird ways to attack my tent and possibly worrying about the frame and such, get the Exos 46 that has straps on the bottom that can attach the tent and other nice features at 12oz more. With that, I should focus on other gear.

What are your opinions?


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I HATE putting my tent on the bottom. I find my legs constantly bang against it as I walk and it shortens my stride (Take THAT to the OCC). The only time I strap it to the bottom is when it sits on my sled.

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I HATE putting my tent on the bottom. I find my legs constantly bang against it as I walk and it shortens my stride (Take THAT to the OCC). The only time I strap it to the bottom is when it sits on my sled.

Never seemed to be a problem for me on my Baltoro 75. Only came loose once. Hopefully won't be a problem on the Exos 46.

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Try before you buy, for me, the Exos 46 was the most painful thing I've ever tried to carry. YMMV. Identical load was great in a Mariposa Plus and a Golite Jam2. Sold it to finance my ULA Circuit.

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I'm convinced skinewmexico is a spokesman for ULA :)

With that said I couldn't be more happy with the Catalyst he talked me into looking at.
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You should get a Circuit; that Catalyst is a little big! I'm actually really fond of my Gossamer Gear bags too, it just seems that people on this forum want something more bomber. Gotta trick people into lightening up and buying American somehow.

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I'm looking at the new model Gregory Savant 58 for a light weight pack.  Tried it on at Gander Mountain and it's really comfortable and nice.  On sale at e-omc.com or better yet at REI with 20% coupon next week.

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You should get a Circuit; that Catalyst is a little big! I'm actually really fond of my Gossamer Gear bags too, it just seems that people on this forum want something more bomber. Gotta trick people into lightening up and buying American somehow.

I consider my Circuit pretty damned bomber!  I don't know where ULA found that heavy duty mesh, but you can't kill it.  That spandex stuff used on so many imported packs?  A little rough bushwacking tears that crap up.

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So what will you take for the Baltoro 75?
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So what will you take for the Baltoro 75?

I was hoping to get $200 out of it.
Looks brand new, used less than 10 times since I got it last year.
It's a small by the way.


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So what will you take for the Baltoro 75?

I was hoping to get $200 out of it.
Looks brand new, used less than 10 times since I got it last year.
It's a small by the way.

Thanks, but I can't use a small.  Good luck with it.

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My winter sleeping bag will fit in the Exos 46 so I'm assuming the same with the Hornet 46. My problem is, how will I attack my tent to the outside of the pack? (Copper Spur 2)

Don't assume that. The Hornet is under-size for the stated volume. Here is a picture of both the Hornet and Exos 46.

I used the ice-axe loops to rig up a way to carry my poles wrapped in my GG Thinlight pad.

One thing to keep in mind about any of these packs for winter use is the fact that the open backpanel is very cold and will collect wind-blown snow.


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Yeah, I'm probably going with the Exos 46. I figure I'm losing ~3.5lbs from my old pack already and the exos does have some convenient features.

I'll look into a even lighter one when the time comes. Thanks for the help!
I'll tell you how it works when I get it.


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You better hope that Osprey works with your back.

All the Osprey packs with that rectangular frame/open mesh suspension kill my back within hours of putting it on.

I got a ULA Circuit this year, have a Granite Gear for the load hauling, and those packs work for me without my feeling like I have a 3,000,000 lb steel block instead of the 23 lbs of gear I actually have... packs need to fit but also to work with your back.

I like Osprey packs fine. They just hate me....


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You better hope that Osprey works with your back.

Yeah, I really hope it works. I'm going to get it from REI so if it doesn't, I can easily return it.

I only had time to try on a large 46. (The only Exos they had in stock.)
Seemed to work fine, but I didn't have time to load it with weight. We all know that can make a big difference, but since I should usually carry less than 20lbs in the pack, it should be fine I hope.


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I like Osprey packs fine. They just hate me....

+1. Well, their day packs work OK.

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I LOVE my deuter aircontact 75. It's just too damn big and heavy. I bought it when it was on sale. The wife said, "Hey that one costs the same as the 65, why not get it, it's like getting ten liters for FREE!"
Some of my stuff is bulky, but not really heavy. My sleeping bag is synthetic, and while it weighs what comparable rated down bags do, its the size of a damn basketball. My underquilt is the same way, about the size of a bigger thermarest when packed, but still pretty light. I'm looking at my options too. The deuters feel so good, I might move down to an ACT Lite 60L, for a 3 pound savings, but I really dont think I could go smaller without having to strap things all over it. I like it all in the pack where I'm not so worried about weather.


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