SUBSCRIBE | NEWSLETTERS | MAPS | VIDEOS | BLOGS | MARKETPLACE | CONTESTS
TRY BACKPACKER FREE!
SUBSCRIBE NOW and get
2 Free Issues and 3 Free Gifts!
Full Name:
Address 1:
Address 2:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Email: (required)
If I like it and decide to continue, I'll pay just $12.00, and receive a full one-year subscription (9 issues in all), a 73% savings off the newsstand price! If for any reason I decide not to continue, I'll write "cancel" on the invoice and owe nothing.
Your subscription includes 3 FREE downloadable booklets.
Or click here to pay now and get 2 extra issues
Offer valid in US only.


» Welcome Guest
[ Log In :: Register ]

Page 1 of 3123>>

[ Track This Topic :: Email This Topic :: Print this topic ]

reply to topic new topic new poll
Topic: Winter Kilts< Next Oldest | Next Newest >
 Post Number: 1
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 6:35 pm  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Would you go wool, acrylic, or keep wearing the Mountain Hardwear hiking kilt?

I was out today in high 40's in a Stillwater acrylic.  Plenty warm. But no wind.  I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a wool.  Anyone have experience with wool vs acrylic in temps below 40?
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 2
Tigger Search for posts by this member.
Woods Pouncer
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 12117
Joined: Apr. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 7:01 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Are you....lack O' nuts?

--------------
If I'm going to be lost, in the woods is where I want to be...
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 3
scroat Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Guests
Posts: 168
Joined: Oct. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 7:14 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Don't forget to accessorize with a wool cocksock.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 4
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 7:21 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(Tigger @ Oct. 07 2012, 7:01 pm)
QUOTE
Are you....lack O' nuts?

Keeping 'em cool - just as nature intended.  Leave the camel toeing to the ladies.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 5
treelinebackpacker Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 768
Joined: Aug. 2011
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 7:26 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I would say wool would be your better option.
It's going to perform better in a wider variety of conditions. Acrylic will technically hold better heat, but it also tends to hold in moisture which could create a cooling effect that you wouldn't want.
Wool provides warmth, is breathable, and is able to keep you warm(ish) even when damp.
Just my opinion, based on the materials.
I've never tried your exact usage, but I don't think it would be that different.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 6
toesnorth Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 2714
Joined: Jan. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 8:08 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

You should trail test both..................and post pictures.............
in color.
:p  :laugh:


--------------
"Failure is never as frightening as regret."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 7
scroat Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Guests
Posts: 168
Joined: Oct. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 8:42 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(toesnorth @ Oct. 07 2012, 8:08 pm)
QUOTE
You should trail test both..................and post pictures.............
in color.
:p  :laugh:

you first  :p
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 8
rayestrella Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6554
Joined: Nov. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 9:42 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Good grief, in winter?

At -20 F what good will any material be for you?

Or are you in a place that rarely sees freezing temps?

Hmm, I suppose winter in Australia my MH kilt would be just fine.


--------------
I measure happiness with an altimeter
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 9
toesnorth Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 2714
Joined: Jan. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 9:43 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(rayestrella @ Oct. 07 2012, 9:42 pm)
QUOTE
Good grief, in winter?

At -20 F what good will any material be for you?

Or are you in a place that rarely sees freezing temps?

Hmm, I suppose winter in Australia my MH kilt would be just fine.

Again...........
pictures please.   :;):


--------------
"Failure is never as frightening as regret."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 10
rayestrella Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6554
Joined: Nov. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 9:50 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

At those temps I need a zoom lens...

--------------
I measure happiness with an altimeter
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 11
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 07 2012, 9:54 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(rayestrella @ Oct. 07 2012, 9:42 pm)
QUOTE
Good grief, in winter?

At -20 F what good will any material be for you?

Or are you in a place that rarely sees freezing temps?

Hmm, I suppose winter in Australia my MH kilt would be just fine.

In WNY the average lows in Jan and Feb are around 20.  Oct to Dec sees average lows of mid-40's, mid-30's and mid-20's respectively.

As I understand kilt "technology" the MH is designed to allow warm air to escape through the material.  A heavier material, like acrylic or wool, theoretically would trap the warm air (warm air rises).

My thinking is to find a way to continue to enjoy the unrestricted benefit of a kilt in colder temps.  That means keeping the warm air from escaping.  Maybe using a kilt in Temps below 20 becomes impossible, especially if there is any significant wind.  But that still leaves Oct, Nov, Dec, March, and April.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 12
eggs Search for posts by this member.
That's sofa King assume
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 4341
Joined: Nov. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 5:37 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I love my kilts but have yet to try either of them below 60F.

40F I would think I'd have cold legs. My arms get cold in short sleeves at those temp. Figure my legs would be the same.

Before Toesnorth askes


--------------
Eggs
Home of the egg
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 13
toesnorth Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 2714
Joined: Jan. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 1:04 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(eggs @ Oct. 08 2012, 5:37 am)
QUOTE
Before Toesnorth askes

Thank you!   :;):


--------------
"Failure is never as frightening as regret."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 14
jmarklane Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 306
Joined: Jul. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 1:49 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(nogods @ Oct. 07 2012, 6:35 pm)
QUOTE
Would you go wool, acrylic, or keep wearing the Mountain Hardwear hiking kilt?

I was out today in high 40's in a Stillwater acrylic.  Plenty warm. But no wind.  I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a wool.  Anyone have experience with wool vs acrylic in temps below 40?

I think we're gonna have to change your name to "nogonads".  Or maybe "cajonots".
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 15
rayestrella Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6554
Joined: Nov. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 1:50 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(nogods @ Oct. 07 2012, 8:54 pm)
QUOTE
In WNY the average lows in Jan and Feb are around 20.  Oct to Dec sees average lows of mid-40's, mid-30's and mid-20's respectively.

As I understand kilt "technology" the MH is designed to allow warm air to escape through the material.  A heavier material, like acrylic or wool, theoretically would trap the warm air (warm air rises).

Well I suppose you could use them then. The walking motion is constantly moving the air under the kilt so I don't really know if the wool will help much. Although the wool ones I looked at before going with MH were cut narrower.

I had mine down at freezing on a couple of Yosemite trips and my legs were pretty cold starting out in the mornings. I personally would not take them lower.

Here Toes. Kilt in Yosemite. (There was still snow on the ground so that water was cold.)

I wish I had mine with me. We leave tomorrow for the last hike and it is a lot warmer than we expected.


Attached Image
Attached Image

--------------
I measure happiness with an altimeter
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 16
toesnorth Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 2714
Joined: Jan. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 2:51 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(rayestrella @ Oct. 08 2012, 1:50 pm)
QUOTE
Here Toes. Kilt in Yosemite. (There was still snow on the ground so that water was cold.)

Thank you, Ray.  Anyone else?
It must be my Scottish DNA because I do love a man in a kilt!


--------------
"Failure is never as frightening as regret."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 17
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 3:30 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

This was from last Saturday's hike - temp was about 40 when we started the hike and reached about 45 when we finished.  We were checking out a newly constructed leanto - not quite finished.  But the kilt will work great on the open air privy.

The Stillwater acrylic was more than warm enough in those temps after about 5 mins of hiking.  I was using the injini compression socks.  Knees did fine except for a few scratches from thorn bushes when we bushwhacked a short portion on the way back.



Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 18
jmarklane Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 306
Joined: Jul. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 4:40 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Notice how they're all kind of standing away from you....?

(j/k)
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 19
toesnorth Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 2714
Joined: Jan. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 6:54 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I think you look great!

--------------
"Failure is never as frightening as regret."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 20
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 7:01 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(jmarklane @ Oct. 08 2012, 4:40 pm)
QUOTE
Notice how they're all kind of standing away from you....?

(j/k)

I think little people are afraid of being stepped on by me

[FLASH=400,400][/FLASH]
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 21
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 08 2012, 7:13 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(toesnorth @ Oct. 08 2012, 6:54 pm)
QUOTE
I think you look great!

Thanks - flattery will get you even more... :D

This was at another leanto about two months ago - when the high temperature that day was twice what it was last Saturday:

Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 22
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 10:49 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Everything you'll ever need to know is on the internet.  Somewhere.

Some people's quest for knowledge knows no bounds.  If the author of this study turned it into a video he could easily get it featured on Tosh.0

The Effect of Kilt Yardage on Body Heat Loss in a Cold Environment
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 23
toesnorth Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 2714
Joined: Jan. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 12:03 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

The only skirt I wear.............

Edit:
I can't post pictures for crap!


--------------
"Failure is never as frightening as regret."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 24
Tigger Search for posts by this member.
Woods Pouncer
Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 12117
Joined: Apr. 2005
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 12:20 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(toesnorth @ Oct. 09 2012, 9:03 am)
QUOTE
The only skirt I wear.............

Edit:
I can't post pictures for crap!

No...You post pictures just fine. It's the same skirt I wear.

--------------
If I'm going to be lost, in the woods is where I want to be...
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 25
scroat Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Guests
Posts: 168
Joined: Oct. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 2:22 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

... men wearing skirts; what's wrong with that picture?
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 26
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 3:15 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Your question reminds me of the patient being given a Rorschach test - in every inkblot he saw  a person having sex with an animal.  When the doctor said "you may have Zoophilia" the patient replied "Me!  You are the one with the all the beastialiaty pictures."

So exactly what is it you see when you see a picture of a man in a kilt?
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 27
jmarklane Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 306
Joined: Jul. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 3:23 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Could somebody pass the popcorn, please?

:)
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 28
scroat Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Guests
Posts: 168
Joined: Oct. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 3:32 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Since you asked, I see the dumbing down of American male masculinity.  The pervasive attitude in this country that anything goes.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 29
nogods Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 6363
Joined: Sep. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 4:28 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(scroat @ Oct. 09 2012, 3:32 pm)
QUOTE
Since you asked, I see the dumbing down of American male masculinity.  The pervasive attitude in this country that anything goes.

I find it difficult to believe that a man would be dependent on his clothing for his masculinity, especially when discussing a piece of utilitarian clothing like a kilt.

Does color impinge on your masculinity too?  Do you dress in Realtree camo from underwear to outwear to feel masculine?  

Do You think these guys have gender identification issues because they wear pink?

null

One of our modern cultural sterotypes is that women worry about what other people wear, but men couldn't care less what other men wear.  

You seem to be breaking that gender barrier.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 30
scroat Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Guests
Posts: 168
Joined: Oct. 2012
PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 09 2012, 4:41 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE

Perhaps; I've never given that idea much thought.  I guess I'm one of those individuals that clings to God, Levi 501's and Mom's apple pie.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
70 replies since Oct. 07 2012, 6:35 pm < Next Oldest | Next Newest >

[ Track This Topic :: Email This Topic :: Print this topic ]


Page 1 of 3123>>
reply to topic new topic new poll

» Quick Reply Winter Kilts
iB Code Buttons
You are posting as:

Do you wish to enable your signature for this post?
Do you wish to enable emoticons for this post?
Track this topic
View All Emoticons
View iB Code



Get 2 FREE Trial Issues and 3 FREE GIFTS
Survival Skills 101 • Eat Better
The Best Trails in America
YES! Please send me my FREE trial issues of Backpacker
and my 3 FREE downloadable booklets.
Full Name:
City:
Address 1:
Zip Code:
State:
Address 2:
Email (required):
Free trial offer valid for US subscribers only. Canadian subscriptions | International subscriptions