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G22inSC 

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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 12:46 pm |
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I am on the verge of purchasing a TT Hogback for family use as our primary backpacking tent. I was all set to finalize the deal until I started reading about the lack of waterproofness on the tent material. I began reading that Silnylon (?) can absorb water through the material if pressure is applied. I'm not worried about the tent fly portion because there would not be any real pressure applied.
My concern is the floor. There will be pressure on the floor while water could be under the tent body. Is this an issue or just something blown out of proportion on the net? We already have/use down bags and don't want to constantly worry about water seeping through the floor and wetting the down. That could lead to real problems when the kids are camping.
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High_Sierra_Fan 

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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 1:22 pm |
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For family use many recommend a tyvek footprint, since the tent gets heavier use than simple sleeping, which would eliminate any pressure weeping from a saturated ground tentsite selection.
For less floor abrasion protection but reasonable water blocking a poly painters drop cloth would do, just replace as it develops holes, which it will faster than the tougher tyvek.
Just like any footprint either should be smaller than the tent itself so there's no channelling of water between the footprint and tent floor from runoff.
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eggs 
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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 1:34 pm |
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I have a TT rainbow. I've used it with and without a tyvek groundsheet. Never had a water issue from the floor in either configuration. I've had plenty of rainy nights in it.
On heavy hard rains I get splashing which wets the netting which then can wet whatever may be touching it. But that is my only issue and easily managed.
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rayestrella 

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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 1:48 pm |
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I have had my Tarptents in major rain and even snow (not planned!) and never had it leak. I have a Hogback too, it is a great family tent for the weight and the space it takes in dad's pack.
I do take a piece of Tyvek, mainly to keep it clean and protect from sharp things.
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texasbb 

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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 9:42 pm |
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(GoBlueHiker @ Nov. 26 2012, 10:43 am)
QUOTE (eggs @ Nov. 26 2012, 11:34 am)
QUOTE I have a TT rainbow. I've used it with and without a tyvek groundsheet. Never had a water issue from the floor in either configuration. I've had plenty of rainy nights in it.
On heavy hard rains I get splashing which wets the netting which then can wet whatever may be touching it. But that is my only issue and easily managed. +1 here, on both counts, using a TT Cloudburst with a silnylon floor when camping with my wife. Hasn't been an issue. 'Nother +1 (mine's a Rainbow).
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markskor 

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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 10:33 pm |
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Also a Rainbow user... many, many years and 400+ nights on the tent, been rained on plenty...silnylon floor. Great tent!
I usually cut a 2 ml clear, plastic drop-cloth on the start of each season and use it under the tent, just a bit of extra protection - (might as well as I am carrying it anyway,) and the plastic sheet also does double duty when occasionally cowboy camping.
I do not know if the ground-sheet really helps or not as never have gotten wet from the ground up, thru the silnylon tent bottom...but, as mentioned above, touching the sides/net is another matter, especially when Sierra pouring.
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FamilyGuy 

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Posted on: Nov. 26 2012, 10:43 pm |
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I've put a few small holes in the floor of my Rainbow but that is after some hard use. Nothing that a good groundsheet would have prevented. Having said that, I have never had water leak though the floor and my fix has been to use silnet to patch any holes.
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G22inSC 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 7:59 am |
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Thanks so much for the responses. That puts my mind at ease. Guess its time to try out a Hogback.
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