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rayestrella 
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Posted on: Nov. 30 2012, 4:04 pm |
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I am getting gear ready for tomorrow and putting away my son's stuff from last week and decided to start some notes on the XTherm. I have the Large and my son has the Regular, which I used a couple times before getting the Large. (I can only use it with a bag, it is just too small for me with a quilt I found out.) Here is a breakdown of the specs with my actual weights and sizes. I need to put the actual inflated sizes but don't want to inflate them again as I just rolled them up. (Yeah I'm lazy, wait for the review;-)
Product: NeoAir XTherm 4-Season pad
Year manufactured: 2011
MSRP: US $219.95 & $189.95
Size: Large & Regular
Weight listed Large: 20 oz (570 g)
Actual weight: 19.9 oz (563 g)
Weight listed Regular: 15 oz (430 g)
Actual weight: 14.5 oz (410 g)
Dimensions listed Large: 25 x 75 in (63 x 196 cm)
Actual dimensions inflated: 2 at widest spot,
tapering down to xx x xx in long ( x cm)
Dimensions listed Regular: 20 x 72 in (51 x 183 cm)
Actual dimensions inflated: xx at widest spot,
tapering down to xx x 7x in long ( x cm)
Thickness listed: 2.5 in (6.3 cm) Verified accurate
Packed size listed: Large,11 x 4.5 in (28 x 11 cm)
Regular, 9 x 4 in (23 x 10 cm)
Actual: 9.5 x 4.5 in (24 x 11 cm) & 7.7 x 4 in (20 x 10 cm)
R-Value: 5.7
Like the past two pads of theirs I have looked at they come in under the stated weight. I like that from a company. And they definitely pack smaller than they say. There's a pic of both of them rolled up.
So far I have 4 nights in, one of them near 0 F with a quilt, one -8 F with a bag. My son has one night so far but plans on more this winter.
It blows me away that they get this much r-value. 5.7 is just 0.3 less than my first Kooka Bay down pad (although I think his numbers were low).
Come March or April I will do a full review of them.
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BikerEagle
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Posted on: Nov. 30 2012, 10:53 pm |
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Ray
Do you think that the Neo would be overkill vs. a regular thermarest for winter camping in Alabama and Tennessee?
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rayestrella
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Posted on: Dec. 01 2012, 10:56 am |
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Hi BikerEagle, just cancelled my hike becuase of mud.
No I don't think it would be overkill at all. You could probably get away with the All-Season, which is heavier but made of more durable material (I think, I don't have enough use with the XTherm to say for sure yet).
Since the XTherm is only 1.5 oz more than the XLite I am just having my son use his as his year-round pad. If this works as advertised I could see this easily being most folks single-pad solution.
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tarol
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Posted on: Dec. 02 2012, 2:31 pm |
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Are they noisy like the original neoair's?
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rayestrella
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Posted on: Dec. 02 2012, 3:59 pm |
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Yeah if you are playing with it. But they aren't that noisy (to me) when I am laying on them.
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Franco
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Posted on: Dec. 02 2012, 5:39 pm |
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Ray
I know that you had a DM 9 but have you used the DM 7?
I'm interested in how you would compare the DM 7 to the XTherm...
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tarol
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Posted on: Dec. 07 2012, 10:06 am |
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One of the persons I go hiking with has one and every time she turns over in the middle of the night it's noisy.
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rayestrella
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Posted on: Dec. 08 2012, 3:53 pm |
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Sorry, I was out hiking.
Franco I have never tried the 2-1/2 model. I like to keep the pads deflated a bit to allow my hip and shoulder to sink, so figure that the extra thickness works better.
C, you need to put your tent farther away. ;-)
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