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High_Sierra_Fan 
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 8:12 pm |
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It kills micro-organisms but slathering all over the largest organ of the human body won't cause an "oops"?
The germicidal action makes me a tad cautious. But for occasional back country use or in the disease area target markets where potable water is beyond precious I can see the benefits outweighing a certain amount of risk.
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treelinebackpacker
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 8:52 pm |
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Nobody else just carry cleansing wipes?
Kleenex face and body wipes work great for me...
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Franco
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 9:03 pm |
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Ray you need to read the blurb.
" It is a proprietary blend of a biocide, bioflavonoids and moisturisers'
Your hand sanitizer may have "Phospholipid Complex " but I don't see no bioflavonoids nor biocides , do you ?
BTW, the prefix BIO stands for life , the suffix CIDE denotes "to kill/murder" so does that product contain stuff that kills your largest organ ?
I need to go and stroke my Wurlitzer to see if it is still working.
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High_Sierra_Fan
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Posted on: Dec. 11 2012, 11:36 pm |
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Oh it's far better than that? The Material Safety Data Sheet warns that for skin contact with the active ingredient in Ray's stuff?
Benzethonium chloride?
Seek immediate medical attention
Best ever. 
"Skin: Get medical aid. Flush skin with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes while removing contaminated clothing and shoes. Wash clothing before reuse"
http://www.fishersci.in/msds/BenzethoniumChloride.pdf
That entire flushing with water for fifteen minutes thing would appear to maybe negate the teensiest bit the whole "waterless" aspect? But that could just be me.
A second opinion.
"Skin Contact:
In case of contact, immediately flush skin with plenty of water. Cover the irritated skin with an emollient. Remove contaminated clothing and shoes. Cold water may be used.Wash clothing before reuse. Thoroughly clean shoes before reuse. Get medical attention.
Serious Skin Contact:
Wash with a disinfectant soap and cover the contaminated skin with an anti-bacterial cream. Seek immediate medical attention."
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 10:28 am |
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So is it for wimps or little girls?
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 12:11 pm |
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(gregpphoto @ Dec. 13 2012, 7:58 am)
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QUOTE So is it for wimps or little girls? It's sanitation. I would assume it's for both. Ah. I forgot that thousands of years ago, on the plains of Africa, man walked upright (with his loofa)..
I'm pretty sure it has to do with disease control which has been an issue in some areas - not about looking or smelling pretty.
http://www.wimp.com/bathwithout/
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gregpphoto
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(Tigger @ Dec. 13 2012, 12:11 pm)
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QUOTE So is it for wimps or little girls? It's sanitation. I would assume it's for both. Ah. I forgot that thousands of years ago, on the plains of Africa, man walked upright (with his loofa).. I'm pretty sure it has to do with disease control which has been an issue in some areas - not about looking or smelling pretty. http://www.wimp.com/bathwithout/
Is the fact that the web address starts with "wimp" a coincidence? 
I would wholeheartedly agree with the suggested usage in regards to sanitation, especially in highly densely populated areas. But in the woods? Whats next, dehydrated deoderant?
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 12:15 pm |
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(Tigger @ Dec. 13 2012, 9:11 am)
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QUOTE So is it for wimps or little girls? It's sanitation. I would assume it's for both. Ah. I forgot that thousands of years ago, on the plains of Africa, man walked upright (with his loofa).. I'm pretty sure it has to do with disease control which has been an issue in some areas - not about looking or smelling pretty. http://www.wimp.com/bathwithout/
and thousands of years ago people lived to be somewhere around 25-30 on average.
Which appears to be the originators target where that sort of mortality still exists due to potable water shortages and one of the consequences of that shortage, increased decease and mortality.
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 12:18 pm |
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Odds are good a test swipe and culture of your hands would disappoint you in your achievement of that goal.
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QUOTE So is it for wimps or little girls? It's sanitation. I would assume it's for both. Ah. I forgot that thousands of years ago, on the plains of Africa, man walked upright (with his loofa).. I'm pretty sure it has to do with disease control which has been an issue in some areas - not about looking or smelling pretty. http://www.wimp.com/bathwithout/and thousands of years ago people lived to be somewhere around 25-30 on average. Which appears to be the originators target where that sort of mortality still exists due to potable water shortages and one of the consequences of that shortage, increased decease and mortality.
You do realize that the whole "man used to only live till 30" idea is extremely flawed in that it does not account for an incredibly high infant mortality rate. Drop that segment out and your average life expectancy would be much greater.
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 12:20 pm |
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Infant mortality from disease is STILL human deaths. And deaths from infections of adults who incur minor cuts and abrasions isn't insignificant either.
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 12:21 pm |
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Of course you won't get sick! They're YOUR intestinal flora.
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 12:22 pm |
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Died by thirty...
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Well, OK.
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(High_Sierra_Fan @ Dec. 13 2012, 12:26 pm)
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QUOTE Infant mortality from disease is STILL human deaths. And deaths from infections of adults who incur minor cuts and abrasions isn't insignificant either. #1 youre not a human till youre on facebook. #2 its called an anti-septic. Nature gives us lots of em. Shpagnum, honey, eucalyptus, tea tree oil.. shall I continue? Remember to wash thoroughly after unwadding those panties. Just to be prudent for the next person whose hand you shake if nothing else.
Ahh, the troll in defeat. What a splendid sight, ignoring the information posted due to a deformed neocortex. Bravo!
I gotcha with the natural anti septics huh?
PS I dont wear panties anymore, I go commando.
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 12:33 pm |
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What information? A random list of supposed agents? Things some may or may not have used at some point in time or not?
Yeah sure.
Numbering things adds credulity in your world?
Good one.
Oh and bon a petit!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophagia
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(High_Sierra_Fan @ Dec. 13 2012, 12:33 pm)
QUOTE What information? A random list of supposed agents? Things some may or may not have used at some point in time or not? Yeah sure. Numbering things adds credulity in your world? Good one. Oh and bon a petit! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophagia
Supposed? Honey and Sphagnum in particular are well known to have anti-septic properties. This isnt up for argument, its just a fact. People like you are the problem in this world. When youre cornered, when other people come up with substantiated PROOF, you merely resort to trolling. Its dumb.
"Much scientific research has been done, with emphasis of late on fighting infections in wounds.[68] The antibacterial mechanisms known to date are H2O2, methylglyoxal(MGO), bee defensin-1, the osmotic effect and the pH."
Source: http://dare.uva.nl/document/175222
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QUOTE Infant mortality from disease is STILL human deaths. And deaths from infections of adults who incur minor cuts and abrasions isn't insignificant either. #1 youre not a human till youre on facebook. #2 its called an anti-septic. Nature gives us lots of em. Shpagnum, honey, eucalyptus, tea tree oil.. shall I continue? Remember to wash thoroughly after unwadding those panties. Just to be prudent for the next person whose hand you shake if nothing else. Ahh, the troll in defeat. What a splendid sight, ignoring the information posted due to a deformed neocortex. Bravo! I gotcha with the natural anti septics huh? PS I dont wear panties anymore, I go commando.
Haha, you're calling HSF a troll, after the display you just put on in this thread? See: definition of irony.
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 12:45 pm |
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Well known now by some people. Which isn't much of an argument for infectious disease prevention and related mortality centuries and millennia ago which was the subject. YOUR subject as I recall.
"I forgot that thousands of years ago, on the plains of Africa..."
Again how is that "list" proof of anything? You made NO argument (okay it was impressively numbered) other than a "list" that dismissed infants as not human (Facebook? Talk about dumb eh?) as well as some items with nothing relating that to ancient usage and mortality.
Then there is the observed fact that infectious disease is still a challenge in areas such as the ones the products originators are trying to address. Maybe they just need larger shipments of Honey?. Moss could be airdropped, at least when dry....
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