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I currently have 2 sleeping pads, a Thermarest Z Lite Sol and an Exped Synmat 7. The Thermarest lets me feel the cold hard ground more than I like. The Exped gives me the comfort I like but it is a pain to inflate. Does anyone have a different reccomendation?

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I have the Exped Downmat with the built-in hand pump and it's not too much of a hassle to inflate.  For winter there's nothing better.  I've used the NeoAir All Season which is okay and light.  Also favor the Thermarest 40th Anniversary pad (get them while you can) and of course the Prolite Plus, a very nice 3+ season pad.

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Get one of these and inflate whatever you want with no difficulty.

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews....strella


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PostIcon Posted on: Jan. 01 2013, 11:09 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

If you find that perfect pad let me know.  All the ones with built in pumps I have seen or owned weight more than I want to deal with.  I would rather blow one up than carry a bunch of extra weight.
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The Exped downmat I use is the largest and comes in at 2 lbs 13 ozs.  This is reasonable when you're holed up at -10F.  A good sleeping pad has to serve several functions with weight often being the least important consideration.

BTW, the downmat 7 is 1 lb 15 ozs---pretty good weight for a winter stand-alone pad.


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I have the Exped Downmat with the built-in hand pump and it's not too much of a hassle to inflate.  For winter there's nothing better.

The Syn7 comes with the same built in pump. It took me a few times to get the hang of it which may be the complaint of the original post. But the pad itself is great - comfy and warm.

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Get one of these and inflate whatever you want with no difficulty.

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews....strella

Hey, Ray.
Does that microburst work without an adaptor with the Exped downmat 9, older version?


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You could try a Klymit Inertia X-frame or X-lite on top of the Z-Lite, in or under the bag. I have a Z-lite and a X-lite, and have used both, but am going to combine them soon to see how they fare in cold weather. I don't like having the Z-Lite attached outside my pack, but also don't like the idea of not having any insulation if an insulated inflatable fails. The combo is lighter than my insulated pad, too.
The torso length X-Lite takes less than 2 breaths to inflate.
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I've been using this-Quick, easy, dry inflation. Can also be used as a stuff sack.

http://www.rei.com/product/829645/exped-schnozzel-pumpbag
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No love for the Instaflator?

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No love for the Instaflator?

Yes indeed. 6 very light breaths to fill up my two large neoairs

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The Exped downmat I use is the largest and comes in at 2 lbs 13 ozs.  This is reasonable when you're holed up at -10F.  A good sleeping pad has to serve several functions with weight often being the least important consideration.

BTW, the downmat 7 is 1 lb 15 ozs---pretty good weight for a winter stand-alone pad.

In my opinion,

Unless you're on dry ground, there should be no such thing as a stand-alone pad in winter, short of a thick closed cell foam.


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The Synmat UL7 does not have a built in pump but the Synmat 7 does.
It takes a bit of practice to get the pump to work effectively but once you get it it is reasonably fast.
This is the way I do it :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dC1WD450U
Yes it takes 2 minutes but not much effort...
3 basic "tricks'
1) open both valves and let it stand there for a few minutes
2) let the sponge in the pump fully inflate before you push down again
3) make sure you are blocking the in valve fully as you press down.
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Does that microburst work without an adaptor with the Exped downmat 9, older version?

It works perfect with the old style. (I just dug out my son's pad.)

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Thanks guys. A lot of food for thought. Franco one of your 3 tips made the inflation a little easier. I think for now I'll stick with the Synmat 7 for now. I must admit it was warm and comfortable.

On another note this was mysecond trip with the Aarn pack and my first with the Tarptent Rainshadow 2. It was at the confluence of the Suwannee River and Withlacoochee River in North FL. I'll attempt to post a link to the photobucket album.

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do those "balance pockets" swing while you're walking or are they pretty well fixed? i like the concept.

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do those "balance pockets" swing while you're walking or are they pretty well fixed? i like the concept.

The balance pockets do not swing, nor do they interfere with my arm swing. It has become the pack I favor most. I also own an Osprey Aether 70.


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Jambeaux, did you know you can inflate the Exped with your foot? I find that a lot easier. It's the same principle: just make sure your foot covers the valve and it will work fine. I think if you can put up with the weight of the Synmat 7 there's nothing more comfortable or warmer, so I would stick with it.
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I have the Exped downmat 7, and I'm also not a fan of the built in pump.  I'm going to try the foot thing and see if it helps.  I have an older version of the short downmat, that used the stuff sack as a bellows pump, and I liked that system much better.  Oh well.  The pad is warm & comfy enough that I can overlook the PITA to get the thing inflated.

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Jambeaux, did you know you can inflate the Exped with your foot? I find that a lot easier. It's the same principle: just make sure your foot covers the valve and it will work fine. I think if you can put up with the weight of the Synmat 7 there's nothing more comfortable or warmer, so I would stick with it.

It is quite a bit heavier than some of the newer models.


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I have really come to love my NeoX-lite. Looking forward to getting an X-therm for colder temps. I use a pumpsack to inflate it, and as a H2o resistant stuff sack. The instaflator works too.
It surpised me how much more comfortable the horizontal baffles are. I don't love the tapered foot end in the winter though. I move around a lot and find my legs fall off and become cold.
I also agree that in winter an inflatable pad should never be without a ccf backup.
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It is quite a bit heavier than some of the newer models.

I know. I also have the wide and not a newer model of the Synmat 7. To justify the weight I took 1 lb off my sleeping bag and a few ounces off my tent. I don't mind carrying the weight for the comfort it offers.
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