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I'm looking for a cheap and easy method of getting clean water.
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Cheap and easy?  Probably iodine: http://www.rei.com/product/407071/potable-aqua-iodine-tablets .  Chlorine dioxide doesn't affect the flavor of the water as much, but requires a longer wait.
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Iodine does not work on crypto and is not really safe anyway. Chlorine Dioxide actually makes most water taste better, but does have the wait.

Gravity filters are easy and fast.

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What kind of sources do you plan to take water from?  There are lots of options.  When you go cheaper and easier, the application becomes less universal (or at least produces less appealing results under some circumstances).
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I'm going to buy a hydration bladder and need a way of getting clean drinking water. I live in the uk and there are a lot of farms and human settlements around. I was thinking about filtering it into my hydration bladder then adding chlorine tablets. What's the best way of doing this or is there a better method?
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I'm going to buy a hydration bladder and need a way of getting clean drinking water. I live in the uk and there are a lot of farms and human settlements around. I was thinking about filtering it into my hydration bladder then adding chlorine tablets. What's the best way of doing this or is there a better method?
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Or filling up my hydration bladder with dirty water and adding chlorine tablets then having an inline filter
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Why not just use a filter alone? Do you live in an area that viruses are a concern? (We don't have that problem in the US.) Sawyer makes a POINT Zero Two filter that does it all and would eliminate the tablets and wait for you.

http://www.sawyer.com/sawyersaves/products-pointtwo.html


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Why not just use a filter alone? Do you live in an area that viruses are a concern? (We don't have that problem in the US.) Sawyer makes a POINT Zero Two filter that does it all and would eliminate the tablets and wait for you.

http://www.sawyer.com/sawyersaves/products-pointtwo.html

I'm not sure if there are viruses in the water but I'm pretty sure ther would be because there are lots of villages and towns around.
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What about if I filled my bladder with dirty water and added chlorine tablets then had an inline carbon filter? Chlorine tablets
Carbon filter
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What about an aquamira screwed to a platypus to make a gravity filter?
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What about an aquamira screwed to a platypus to make a gravity filter?

Or you could just use the Platypus gravity filter.
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What about if I filled my bladder with dirty water and added chlorine tablets then had an inline carbon filter? Chlorine tablets
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Carbon just absorbs chemicals, probably not your issue.

For infrequent need Chlorine Dioxide is cost effective, for a lot of use filters are cheaper per gallon. Check with local walking clubs for local recommendations to suit the water you'll encounter.
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Ok thanks
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What's missing is that there is probably a load of chemicals in the water, and none of the methods mentioned will do anything about them. The farmers themselves are probably drawing from wells, rather than creeks and ditches.

I'd be stopping in town and getting water at hostels and buying bottled.


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What's missing is that there is probably a load of chemicals in the water, and none of the methods mentioned will do anything about them. The farmers themselves are probably drawing from wells, rather than creeks and ditches.

I'd be stopping in town and getting water at hostels and buying bottled.

Ok thanks are there any filters that can get rid of chemicals?
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What's missing is that there is probably a load of chemicals in the water, and none of the methods mentioned will do anything about them. The farmers themselves are probably drawing from wells, rather than creeks and ditches.

I'd be stopping in town and getting water at hostels and buying bottled.

Ok thanks are there any filters that can get rid of chemicals?

Unfortunaely, not really.

Here are a couple of good resources that might shed some additional light on your questions:

article 1
article 2
article 3
article 4

Most will recommend not filtering from sources high in agricultural runoff as there is no good way to treat it.  (I always carry my own water in such places.)  You may be able to get sufficient water from towns and villages with careful planning.  I like the idea of contacting some local hiking clubs in your area to see how folks are handling it locally.

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I dont think that can be done,"cheap n easy' with any kind of quality. Just curious, cheap i understand $, but why easy?

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Yeah, I keep one of these at the house as I live in an area that floods frequently and we have a LOT of agriculture and its associated run-off.

http://generalecology.com/categor....ier-new

Back in the early 90's I hiked with one of them but don't any longer as they are pretty heavy and I don't need the capability of it in the field.


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I dont think that can be done,"cheap n easy' with any kind of quality. Just curious, cheap i understand $, but why easy?

Ok I didn't really mean easy just not to expensive
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There's also a difference between the level of exposure a resident has to consider with their daily water supply and a walker just passing through. For any chemical, whether it be fertilizer or anything else, the dosage is important: a few liters can easily have zero effect while a decade or so of daily consumption would be a risk: hence residents relying on wells.

OTOH microbial threats are far more immediate, a few Giardia cysts and you run a very high risk of getting the disease: hence biologically relevant filters are where the backpacking/hiking emphasis is placed. Were you to be faced with heavily toxic industrial runoff I'd suggest find another location to hike: or carry bottled water....

Again local clubs will be more knowledgable about local water.

For long distance ocean sailing and sea kayaking there are filters that would clear everything from the water: Reverse Osmosis Filtration units, heavy, expensive and not terribly high in flow rate.
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There's also a difference between the level of exposure a resident has to consider with their daily water supply and a walker just passing through. For any chemical, whether it be fertilizer or anything else, the dosage is important: a few liters can easily have zero effect while a decade or so of daily consumption would be a risk: hence residents relying on wells.

OTOH microbial threats are far more immediate, a few Giardia cysts and you run a very high risk of getting the disease: hence biologically relevant filters are where the backpacking/hiking emphasis is placed. Were you to be faced with heavily toxic industrial runoff I'd suggest find another location to hike: or carry bottled water....

Again local clubs will be more knowledgable about local water.

For long distance ocean sailing and sea kayaking there are filters that would clear everything from the water: Reverse Osmosis Filtration units, heavy, expensive and not terribly high in flow rate.

Ok thanks
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Get the Sawyer Squeeze for $50 and be done with it. I have found this to be the easiest and most durable system I have used.
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For more than one or two people I like the gravity filters.

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I like cheap, but a case of Giardia cost my friend lots of doctor time, lethargy and classes to prevent him passing the disease to others. That being said, I'll mention the following:

I'm weight concious, but very health concious. Health is priceless and I've friends who've fought giardia for over 6 months. About 15 years ago I bought a Katydyn Pocket filter for $260.00. IMHO, I'm not trusting of the cheaper units. It did take almost ten years of traveling and camping to make the investment primarily for hiking and whitewater kayaking.
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