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shaunkad 
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 10:43 am |
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I am in the market for a camp chair and pad. I am thinking all in one or a two piece set up.
Crazy Creek Hex Power lounger 2.0
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Thermarest Pro Light Small with Compack Chair Kit
Any users of either please chime in
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 11:05 am |
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I bought a $25 walmart hammock. I had a tailor cut it in half then sew a channel in each piece on the cut end. He charged me $10 for the project. I'll use whoppie slings, carabiners and tree straps for the suspension. Now I have two camp chairs that double as gear hammocks.
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 11:27 am |
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I'm curious as to how many of you actually carry some sort of camp chair while backpacking. While I'll admit that it would be nice to have one in camp, the extra weight just doesn't seem like it would be worth it. Especially with the emphasis on going light these days. I can see it while canoeing, but backpacking - that's bit of a stretch. For me anyway.
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shaunkad
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 11:47 am |
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For 8 oz. I can turn a pad into a chair or use a chair that doubles as a pad. All of my gear is old early 90's. I would still be shaving weight off my current pad at 2.5 lbs. without the stuff sack.
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shaunkad
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 12:01 pm |
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my current pad weighs 1136g. 40.0 oz. 2.5 lbs.
power lounger hex 2.0 845g. 29.8 oz. 1.86 lbs.
therm a rest system 501g. 17.7 oz. 1.1 lbs.
Weight alone the thermarest wins how ever may get punctured. So I geuss my question should be does anyone sleep on a Crazy Creek?
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ol-zeke
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 12:12 pm |
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Read this Simple to make. Cut the pattern with a soldering iron to seal the edges of the rip stop. Make the pocket big enough for whatever sit pad you already carry. Thing weighs about 3 ounces when it is finished. You do need to reinforce some of the areas when using rip stop. I added second layers of rip stop to the ends of the pockets where the trekking poles went, to keep the handles from poking through.
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 1:18 pm |
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This doesn't weigh much but you need to use something as a backrest.
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews....strella
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 1:30 pm |
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I have the equivalent from Pacific Outdoor Equipment. I use it in tandem with my uninsulated air mattress for sleeping. Nothing better for sitting around camp.
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 4:00 pm |
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I have quite a few stools and such of different models. In winter, I bring a stool on occasion. Most of the time, I just use my Z-Rest closed-cell foam pad if anything. Mind you, we usually have an abundance of logs to sit on and such so it's not as much of a concern as it may be in other places.
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 4:51 pm |
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I just use a little Z-Lite seat, which doubles as part of my pillow (the rest is clothes). I'm always on the lookout for other seat options, but I haven't seen anything that was worth the weight for me.
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shaunkad
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 5:33 pm |
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The option of the neo air and Jemba seat is
455g. 16.049 oz. 1 lbs. and 100 dollars more in cost.
although it may be best sleep yet.
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 6:05 pm |
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Hunk of blue ccf app. 1 x 2 feet - couple ounces, costs almost nothing.
I have a half-finished chair made of some old breathable ripstop I had sitting around - maybe I'll fix that up. But the CCF still works in alpine settings, and the hammock chair is only good when there are trees. And the CCF makes a good base for the stove when out in the snow so sometimes I take a second one for that.
Or I sit on a bear can, or a rock.
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 6:52 pm |
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 8:04 pm |
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I use a Crazy Creek power lounger and in my opinion it is well worth any weight penalty when it comes to counting ounces. The ability to have an adjustable chair back to lean against whether sitting around relaxing watching the stars or sitting up reading in the tent is awesome. Addtionally, when we break for lunch on the trail I just toss it out flat on the ground and catch a few Z's with no worries about putting a hole in a mattress. Add to that the fact that it can be used as a sleeping mat on its own (too thin for me!) or to suplement or protect an air mattress and I don't go on the trail without it. Again, that's just my humble opinion, but it goes on every trip with me.
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ol-zeke
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 9:32 pm |
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It appears my link will not allow others to access it. I will try to copy it below.
Account below is by Jerry.
The Jerry Chair - An Ultralight Camp Chair
At the Linville Gorge Hang I debuted my ultralight camp chair. My aging back can’t stand to sit unsupported for very long, so I have been looking for a solution. I like to hang my hammock farther away from the campfire, so it won’t do as a chair in the evening, and the hammock chairs need trees to set up, which aren’t always close to the fire ring. All of the commercially available tripod style chairs weighed at least 16 oz. and are bulky.
What I came up with is a sling type chair which uses my trekking poles and sit pad, which I’m carrying anyway. The weight of this prototype is 3.5 oz. and uses a heavyweight awning fabric, just because that’s what I had laying around. It could be made from most any material, although I think this heavier material gives it a little structure.
Since it's just material it rolls up into a very small bundle.
It was immediately dubbed “the Jerry Chair”.
So here are the instructions to make your very own “Jerry Chair”. All it takes is a piece of material about 20” x 56”. The size isn’t too important. I was just winging it the night I made it.
https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery....=182617
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shaunkad
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2013, 10:28 pm |
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That chair is slick Ol-Zeke that just might be my answer.
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2013, 8:05 am |
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I carry the Pack Stool. It weighs 14 oz. In Florida I always take it. There aren't many good spots to sit and I don't want to sit on the ground with all the fire ants around. Every backpacking trip out west I consider leaving it behind to save myself 14 oz. In the end I drag it along and am always glad I did.
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2013, 8:53 am |
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Z-Lite seat does it for me. It's light and easy to stow on the outside of my pack so it's easy to get to when I need it.
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2013, 9:40 am |
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My bearikade and a small round scrap of ccf pad -
FYI, the blue usually works best in my camp feng shui!
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2013, 12:47 pm |
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(Sanenomore @ Mar. 06 2013, 4:55 am)
QUOTE
(hikerjer @ Mar. 03 2013, 11:27 am)
QUOTE I'm curious as to how many of you actually carry some sort of camp chair while backpacking. While I'll admit that it would be nice to have one in camp, the extra weight just doesn't seem like it would be worth it. Especially with the emphasis on going light these days. I can see it while canoeing, but backpacking - that's bit of a stretch. For me anyway. I carry the REI Flex Lite Chair 1lb 12 oz) and I make no apologies for it. I have never regretted having a chair in camp and personally I feel comfort trumps weight with in reason. There is a faddish over-emphasis on the ultralight today (in my opinion) and while lighter gear is great, I see some people hiking with a mindset more like that of a marathon runner (farther/faster being the mantra). I'm not knocking that style of backpacking, but I personally go out to take in nature and get away from the hyper pace of life, so I am not trying to win a trail race when I go, and a few simple comforts increase my enjoyment greatly and truthfully haven't effected my overall hiking performance that much.
Not everyone who is conscious of weight falls into that category. We weigh tradeoffs in weight allocation for other purposes, such as photography, fishing, climbing, snow travel, etc. Many people with joint problems or other health issues also choose to go as light as possible.
I do a lot of desert backpacking, especially in the shoulder seasons, and I sometimes have to start my weight budget with 2-3 gallons of water. Paying close attention to what the rest of my gear weighs is an important practical consideration with a direct bearing on comfort.
It's fine with me if you want to carry a chair. It's also fine with me if other people make other choices.
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Posted on: Mar. 06 2013, 4:33 pm |
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(big_load @ Mar. 06 2013, 12:47 pm)
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(Sanenomore @ Mar. 06 2013, 4:55 am)
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(hikerjer @ Mar. 03 2013, 11:27 am)
QUOTE I'm curious as to how many of you actually carry some sort of camp chair while backpacking. While I'll admit that it would be nice to have one in camp, the extra weight just doesn't seem like it would be worth it. Especially with the emphasis on going light these days. I can see it while canoeing, but backpacking - that's bit of a stretch. For me anyway. I carry the REI Flex Lite Chair 1lb 12 oz) and I make no apologies for it. I have never regretted having a chair in camp and personally I feel comfort trumps weight with in reason. There is a faddish over-emphasis on the ultralight today (in my opinion) and while lighter gear is great, I see some people hiking with a mindset more like that of a marathon runner (farther/faster being the mantra). I'm not knocking that style of backpacking, but I personally go out to take in nature and get away from the hyper pace of life, so I am not trying to win a trail race when I go, and a few simple comforts increase my enjoyment greatly and truthfully haven't effected my overall hiking performance that much. Not everyone who is conscious of weight falls into that category. We weigh tradeoffs in weight allocation for other purposes, such as photography, fishing, climbing, snow travel, etc. Many people with joint problems or other health issues also choose to go as light as possible. I do a lot of desert backpacking, especially in the shoulder seasons, and I sometimes have to start my weight budget with 2-3 gallons of water. Paying close attention to what the rest of my gear weighs is an important practical consideration with a direct bearing on comfort. It's fine with me if you want to carry a chair. It's also fine with me if other people make other choices.
I agree with your post. Its a HYOH kinda thing, but I probably get a bit defensive of my style of hiking (I pay attention to weight too, just not at the cost of comfort) since I have been blasted several times by ultralighters telling me how to do it "the right way".
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shaunkad
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2013, 3:44 pm |
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The goal is to get two uses out of one item. Like trekking poles/tent poles.
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2013, 8:20 pm |
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I'm willing to carry some extra weight so I can be comfortable so I carry a Thermarest chair kit and pad. After a long day bping I figure I deserve some comfort.
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Posted on: Mar. 07 2013, 10:14 pm |
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(ol-zeke @ Mar. 03 2013, 9:32 pm)
QUOTE It appears my link will not allow others to access it. I will try to copy it below. Account below is by Jerry. The Jerry Chair - An Ultralight Camp Chair At the Linville Gorge Hang I debuted my ultralight camp chair. My aging back can’t stand to sit unsupported for very long, so I have been looking for a solution. I like to hang my hammock farther away from the campfire, so it won’t do as a chair in the evening, and the hammock chairs need trees to set up, which aren’t always close to the fire ring. All of the commercially available tripod style chairs weighed at least 16 oz. and are bulky. What I came up with is a sling type chair which uses my trekking poles and sit pad, which I’m carrying anyway. The weight of this prototype is 3.5 oz. and uses a heavyweight awning fabric, just because that’s what I had laying around. It could be made from most any material, although I think this heavier material gives it a little structure. Since it's just material it rolls up into a very small bundle. It was immediately dubbed “the Jerry Chair”. So here are the instructions to make your very own “Jerry Chair”. All it takes is a piece of material about 20” x 56”. The size isn’t too important. I was just winging it the night I made it. https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery....=182617
Can we get a better link? the one in your post did not return anything but a 404 error. I would like to see what you use.
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