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So I just got it yesterday. I love my hiker pro though. I got the sawyer
Squeeze setup yesterday because I had nothing else that I need or wanted to buy, so I figured let's see what the rave is all about. I will use it with my soft platys. I am concerned about getting water with this set up though..unless I am near good flowing water source of course. I will take it with me next weekend for a simple over night trip and see what I think. I know I already like the size and weight compared to my hiker pro..time and use will tell.


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I recently purchased one as well. So far my biggest problem has been filling the bags. In the desert the water sources are shallow and slow running, so its not easy. What I did last weekend was fill the bag with air before submergence. It seemed to help.

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That would be a problem I am worried about and would not like to have to worry about. Here in NY where I mostly hike, there is usually running water or lakes.  A few times I needed to pump water with my hiker pro from measly murky puddles, and I was so happy to have that with me...where as if I only had this sawyer squeeze thingy...well then I wouled have been in a "squeeze"...not good situation to have been in.  I figure I will carry a survival straw as backup to the sawyer...so if I can't get water to fill a bag, I can at least use the straw to SIP some water to keep me going in an emergency.  Also I will only use the sawyer when I know, for a fact, that I will be passing streams or lakes on my hike

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To fill a Sawyer squeeze bag from standing, shallow water, use some form of scoop. Several simple and lightweight variations on that idea discussed in this recent thread: http://forums.backpacker.com/cgi-bin....2321062

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Yes I read all those posts. I still feel like if I needed to get water from a small murky puddle, the hiker pro is what I want. I've been in that situation before and was glad I had it.  However, I am willing to give the sawyer a chance and I will take it with me on my next overnighter next weekend...though I know I will be crossing flowing water and passing by a lake, so it should work out fine for me.

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IT worked beautifully for me this past weekend. I used a wide mouth nalogen soft canteen bottle for scooping the water..from lakes...and the squeeze filter worked great. A little clumsy at first, but after a few refills I got a nice routine down.  I was filling soft platys with clean fresh tasting water in no time.  I love the size and weight of this set up too. My pack weight is at 13 lbs.  before food and water was added.  I think I can get used to useing this sawyer squeeze filter system.

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Cool.  Thanks for the update, I think a lot of us are interested in the squeeze filter.
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Why the squeeze instead of the gravity flow filter?  What do you see as the advantage?
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Why the squeeze instead of the gravity flow filter?  What do you see as the advantage?

I need a new filter, and those are the two options I'm looking at, so I'm very interested in that question.

The advantage of the squeeze, presumably, is that it is smaller and lighter, and easily and simply compatible with filling any container. And it's cheaper.

The advantages of the gravity system would be that it's easier to fill from a lake without any supplemental accessory, that the clean reservoir can be used directly as a 3L hydration bladder, and that it's easy to store large amounts of water in camp. (3L of clean and 3 more L in the dirty reservoir.) Where the squeeze might be more ideal for personal use, the gravity system seems particularly apt for groups.

Anyone want to disagree or add additional thoughts?
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Why the squeeze instead of the gravity flow filter?  What do you see as the advantage?

honestly? I have no idea. I always used a hiker pro pump. I had nothing left that I needed or really wanted to buy, so I decided to give the sawyer squeeze a try.  I dont know if there are any advantages of 1 over the other. For me, the sawyer squeeze is much lighter and smaller to pack then the hiker pro pump..so that is my advantage. I have never used a gravity flow filter or for that matter actually ever even seen anyone use one..I filled the bag with water, roll/squeeze down and in no time I have my platty bottle filled with clean fresh tasteing water..simple. Roll the small filter up with the bag and away it goes in a small ziplock baggie. Heck, I could even carry it in side pocket of cargo pants/shorts if needed.

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I like gravity flow filters quite a bit.  They allow you to process big volumes of water at a time, which is handy where sources are not plentiful.
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You can easily rig the Sawyer Squeeze to work as a gravity filter, too. All you need is the barbed tube adapter and a couple Platypus or Camelback bladders. It works just like the Gravityworks setup by Platypus.
(http://www.rei.com/product/837889/sawyer-inline-adapter-water-filter-connections)
I haven't used the Squeeze bags at all. For me, using Platy bladders is much more convenient - I can squeeze the water through the system or just hang it from a tree limb to gravity fill.
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My Hiker is going to be due for a new filter soon if I keep using it full time so I think I'll get the gravity flow model.
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I would think the gravity is nice for around camp...but for filling up on the go, passing a stream or lake, I feel like the squeeze, or a pump for that matter, would be more appropriate and time saving. Again, I have never used a gravity system or seen anyone using it, so I can not verify this 100%... It's just me thinking out loud...

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I would think the gravity is nice for around camp...but for filling up on the go, passing a stream or lake, I feel like the squeeze, or a pump for that matter, would be more appropriate and time saving. Again, I have never used a gravity system or seen anyone using it, so I can not verify this 100%... It's just me thinking out loud...

I picked up 8L at a streamside in about 20 minutes with an MSR Autoflow.  It's a lot faster than most pumps.

Edit:  It can go faster than that, I was just taking my time eating lunch and relaxing, which is a nice break from pumping.
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Not sure why people think gravity filters have to be slow....

Sawyer Squeeze is slower when used in squeeze mode than my gravity filter. Got tired of squeezing, using something else now.


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Not sure why people think gravity filters have to be slow....

Sawyer Squeeze is slower when used in squeeze mode than my gravity filter. Got tired of squeezing, using something else now.

so...do tell..what is something else that u are useing?

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I have a ULA gravity filter (discontinued now) into which I splice a Platypus/MSR gravity filter cartridge, which can be cleaned by backflushing... For trips where water is going to be mud ponds and dicey low elevation sources, I take the Hiker Pro with a bandanna rubber-banded around the pre filter.

The nice thing about gravity filters - pull off the filter, put on a shower head, and every three days you have a lukewarm shower with which to wash your hair. (Guys can stand being nappy-headed longer than I can.)


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The Katadyn gravity filter acts pretty much the same as the MSR filter.
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The Katadyn gravity filter acts pretty much the same as the MSR filter.

It's actually pretty much the same filter in a different color...

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The Katadyn gravity filter acts pretty much the same as the MSR filter.

It's actually pretty much the same filter in a different color...

Yes, I figure they all get the guts from the same source, or from multiple sources working to the same specs.
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You can easily rig the Sawyer Squeeze to work as a gravity filter, too. All you need is the barbed tube adapter and a couple Platypus or Camelback bladders. It works just like the Gravityworks setup by Platypus.
(http://www.rei.com/product/837889/sawyer-inline-adapter-water-filter-connections)
I haven't used the Squeeze bags at all. For me, using Platy bladders is much more convenient - I can squeeze the water through the system or just hang it from a tree limb to gravity fill.

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so now yet something new to buy and try....hmmmm..its a viscious cycle..I will have to check it out.

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I have both gravity and squeeze sawyer filters. I prefer the squeeze. As mentioned, the squeeze can be set up as a gravity filter but I'm not having any issue with squeezin'
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I have the gravity setup.  It works well enough, though it takes a moment to set it up and it appears bulkier than the squeeze would be.  Overall I have no real complaints with the gravity though.

I don't use their bladder to drink from, I just drip it straight in to my containers.
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Academy Sports has the Sawyer Squeeze for 34.99 right now. I picked one up as well as an extra 1 liter bag.
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That's a great deal on the SS.

I love mine, and I use one of the spare bags for "scooping" water when I don't have access to flowing water. I took one of the spare bags and cut the bottom off. Leaving it capped, I fill it and have a store bought "zipper seal" to seal it off then transfer into my larger bag or just filter directly into my bottle. Works for me.


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fyi, Sawyer recently upgraded the mylar bags that are included with the Sawyer Squeeze filters. They reinforced the neck to prevent blowouts.

Most leaks in the mylar bags result from clogged filters and people squeezing too hard. Some think they should change the name as people tend to squeeze too hard.

A lot of people have found that newer platypus bottles don't fit tightly when used with the Squeeze. Older ones seem to work fine. A fix for that is a Tornado Tube coupler.

I hope this info helps...


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If you have a bag be it a platy or not that does not fit tightly on the squeeze then simply add a garden hose washer from any hardware store. This fixes the problem easily and cheaply. Also, these washers can be used as a replacement for the white one that comes in the unit.

The sawyer squeeze can also very easily be set up for gravity mode. The sawyer comes with two hose barbs(at least mine did when i bought it 8 months or so ago, purchased from cabelas) then its as simple as attaching the two bags of your choice. You can also set it up as an inline filter.

I really like the squeeze. Light, fairly cheap, easily cleaned, LOOOONG filter life, and very versatile.
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