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I see quite a few threads here regarding stoves but I haven't seen this mentioned too many times.  I have a number of canister stoves and I like them.  Somebody recently turned me on to the Kelly Kettle and I thought it was a great idea.  If you don't know what the Kelly Kettle is, it is a kettle/stove that you can use to burn biomass.  While obviously larger than the canister stoves when you factor in the canisters themselves things even out.  Here is a review I put together on the Kelly Kettle:

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That thing is half a pound heavier than my pocket rocket and pot with a full week's fuel.  And it get's lighter as I use the fuel.  And I can use it in areas with burn bans.

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Not impressed with it.  Spent a weekend with one in our group.  Seemed like a fun toy, but not what I would want for boiling water.  

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There is a lighter, about 10 oz, version of the 1 pint kettle, made in the USA,  called Backcountry Boiler :
http://www.theboilerwerks.com/about/
The Backcountry Boiler also has an exact copy of it , made in China, also sold in the US.

BTW, they tend to be a lot more efficient (less fuel needed) than most other wood burning stoves but yes they are really only for boiling water.
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WHAT biomass above timberline or on rocks, glaciers and snowfields?

Plus my stove comes in at about 6oz and a week's fuel about another 16oz more. Not mention it still works after a week of rain.


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That thing is half a pound heavier than my pocket rocket and pot with a full week's fuel.  And it get's lighter as I use the fuel.  And I can use it in areas with burn bans.

Please consider a couple of points when evaluating my review.  I am looking at the stove from a survivalist's perspective.  I chose a larger version because I am providing food and drinking water for a family of 6.  If you are an individual they have a version that is much smaller and light, they are also coming out with an "ultra-lite" version.  Second, from my frame of reference I don't have a timber line within 1500 miles of my location.  Third, where I am even if there is a week of rain I still have plenty of fuel.  The pines in my area have plenty of dead growth still on them and it takes very little to boil or cook.  It isn't for everyone and everyone isn't at 12,000 ft.  I'll never run out of fuel, never.  When I go hiking/camping with the fam I end up using a canister a day.  By the time I pack it up I can pack many items inside the opening in the kettle, the cook set, utensils, tinder, fire starter, etc.  it works for me.
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I am looking at the stove from a survivalist's perspective.


While many here are "survivalists" in the sense we could survive in the wilderness, this is primarily a backpacking forum, not a survivalist one like your site.


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no can use in the Eastern High Peaks zone in the Adirondacks
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When I go hiking/camping with the fam I end up using a canister a day.  

Eh? What are you cooking?

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I'm a big fan of bio mass stoves but even I find the Kelly Kettle to be too heavy and bulky for backpacking, which this site caters to.

From a survivalist view point, I would recommend you check out the Dakota fire hole/pit.
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When I go hiking/camping with the fam I end up using a canister a day.  

Eh? What are you cooking?

Apparently six course meals. Those of us who boil water can get by on a small canister for five days....

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When I go hiking/camping with the fam I end up using a canister a day.  

Eh? What are you cooking?

Apparently six course meals. Those of us who boil water can get by on a small canister for five days....

Or six people for one day...
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When I go hiking/camping with the fam I end up using a canister a day.  

Eh? What are you cooking?

Apparently six course meals. Those of us who boil water can get by on a small canister for five days....

Or six people for one day...

And you think that your solution fits absolutely all needs everywhere?

I am going to be lucky to use any stove by the end of summer. Right now you can NOT burn any wood whatsoever out there in the Sierra, and to break the rules is to risk a huge wildfire.

I do not need a heavy-as-my-tent stove to boil a pot of water.

Happy you can still use it, I cannot. It's a rare year too that I am not in areas where there is no wood.

I would have everyone in the family carrying their own canister, and be happy.


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Once a jolly backpacker camped by a beaver pond,
Under the shade of a green Maple tree,
And he sang as he watched and waited till his Kelly boiled,
You'll come a Hiking Matilda with me.

Hiking Matilda, Hiking Matilda,
You'll come a Hiking Matilda with me,
And he sang as he watched and waited till his Kelly boiled
You'll come a Hiking Matilda with me.


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