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I have a JetBoil and intend to use it as the primary cooking source. But I happened to think, if something was to happen to it and I'm not allowed to make a fire or needed a second burner, what would be a great backup stove to use?
I'm not looking for a $70+ stove.....

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Waste of weight.

Invest the time and effort into maintaining your stove and forget about it.
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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 18 2014, 5:14 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

OR, if you must, a tiny burner that is compatible with the jetboil gas canisters?

Like a Pocketrocket? (Have no idea if jetboil is proprietary or not)

At 3 ozs it's not totally rediculous....

http://m.rei.com/product....pecsTab
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I agree. And since you're using a Jetboil I assume you are only heating water, not actual cooking, which means dehydrated food -- and you can rehydrate and eat dehydrated food cold. It takes longer to rehydrate, and it may not taste as good, but you'll survive just fine until the end of the trip.

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I was just going to mention the pocket rocket.  3 oz. and it will use the same canisters.

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Pocket Rocket or Snow Peak Gigapower.

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Actually I was planning on getting the JetBoil burner attachment for pots and using it to cook on as well. Dehydrated meals will make up a good portion of the food but not all.

So these "pocket rockets" are pretty good huh? I was looking at that one as it seems like a good fit but wasn't entirely sure.
That Gigapower looks pretty nifty too.


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Pocket rocket or if you insist on keeping the jet boil and have To have a back up for some reason just go cat can stove for back up...  Personally id didtch  the jetboil to the closet and am learning to cook more efficiently with alcohol stoves...  So Mich lighter
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Giga is a great stove.  Litemax is even smaller, and is supposedly very nice.  I have never used a Jetboil, so this may be a dumb question, but will the Jetboil pot fit on these other burners?  Most canister stoves are virtually bombproof, so I don't think bringing a backup makes that much sense.
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Waste of weight.

Invest the time and effort into maintaining your stove and forget about it.

I agree. If you don't trust your Jetboil then you got the wrong stove. I've trusted my MSR pocket rocket and now my Snowpeak Gigapower. Plus I trust my MSR Whisperlite even after 20 + years of using it. Why because I maintain them and plus the Pocketrocket and the Gigapower are simple and not much can go wrong with them.
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I just love my jetboil! You probably know this, but in case you don't, and because I found out the hard way: The ignitor thingy does NOT work at 12,000'. I tested mine that morning and it was fine. That night it refused to light. Who knows what elevation it stops at. Anyway, I had emergency matches and was able to light it. Just wanted to give you (or anyone else) the heads up.

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Having lent my Snow Peak Giga to many wistful Jetboilers suffering on a freezing morning from "failure to boil anything",  you can guess which stove I recommend leaving at home...

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A few weeks ago my Jetboil malfunctioned. I'm not sure what happened exactly, but it appears to be shooting the flame out at an angle and melted the igniter button and the handle. I've still used it a couple times since, using a lighter to ignite it. I'm going to try to exchange it an REI when I pass through St. Louis in a couple weeks. I'm still a big fan of the Jetboil though and hope this was a rare occurrence.

I don't think I would want to bring a backup stove. If it was a real emergency, I would just start a fire.
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The Snowpeak Gigapower has always been more stable than the pocket rocket for me. Similar weight.
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I don't think bringing a backup stove is an awful idea at all; esp if you have a  couple of people. Why? Things happen.

Last year I saw someone drop a small can of fuel and it fell down between a bunch of rocks; I mean, a BUNCH of rocks. 25 minutes later, with use of trekking poles, 3 people, cord, and just about anything else we could imagine to try, we were able to retrieve it. But we very easily could have NOT been able to. We couldn't even safely just dig rocks out, as it was on the side of a rockslide, so moving too many rocks was pretty sketchy.

The simplest things can happen. It's not always as easy as "bring a repair kit and keep your gear in shape'.

I've had pretty good luck with Jetboils over the years, but the igniter I basically discount when it comes out of the box, and bring a lighter/matches. Always.

Gigapowers and PocketRockets are great, but I've had FAR more situations where the jetboil had to boil water or cook for the pocketrocket/gigapower than the other way around. Particularly in wind.

In a pinch a pot can ALWAYS fit a stove. :)

All that said, I rarely bring an "extra" stove, but I do bring enough stoves for a group of people that if 1 breakdown, we're not out of stoves.


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The Kovea Ti type fits in the Jetboil.
Mine is the original version but the current Supalite (56g ?) looks the same.
Fold in the secon section of the arms , spread two out fully and one just a bit , insert past the first ring of the Jetboil base then spread the other arm out and push them inbetween the fins.


I just thought of this but gave it a quick test, works well .
Also available as Snow Peak Lite Max
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Conversely, I've cooked on an alcohol stove when the wind blew out the Jetboil.

Still can't convince me any stove is any more special than any other. They all have flames, and they all boil water. I refuse to bother with something so complicated that it can't be bent back into functionality.


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Another vote for no backup stove.
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I don't believe you need a backup stove for the Jetboil. I used the original for years without major problems until I upgraded to the Jetboil Sol Titanium for its lighter weight. I do real cooking on it with the frypan and the standard cooking pot

Do bring a lighter and/or matches in case the piezo ignitor fails.

If you really want a backup stove (which I don't think you need), get one that's compatible with the Lyndal valve on your gas cannisters. I'm not a fan of the MSR Pocket Rocket (a.k.a. blowtorch) due to its tiny, concentrated flame which would not make good use of the fuel-saving Jetboil flux rings. The Snow Peak GigaPower is a stove better suited to Jetboil cooking.

Please ignore the recommendation for a Cat alcohol stove as backup. That would require that you carry not only a backup stove, but different fuel as a backup.


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Please ignore the recommendation for a Cat alcohol stove as backup. That would require that you carry not only a backup stove, but different fuel as a backup.

Considering my Whitebox stove weighs 1 ounce and the fuel is stored in an Evian bottle...it would in essence weigh less than carrying many "backup" stoves alone. A Jetboil weighs 14 oz. right?

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I think the OP was talking about when you can't use an open flame.

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The Snowpeak Gigapower has always been more stable than the pocket rocket for me. Similar weight.

That's why I switched over to the Snowpeak Gigapower. 3 pot supports are just too flimsy.
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I'm another who considers a backup stove as unnecessary weight.  But, if you have to have one, I suggest the Gigapower Litemax.  It's my primary stove.  Weighs just a couple of ounces and works great.
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I would only consider taking a back-up if solo on a relatively long hike.

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A backup stove? Do I need to start carrying a backup tent, sleeping bag also?

You know, this two is one and one is none BS needs to go away. If something fails in the backcountry (and it will) just deal with it.
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Another vote for no backup stove.

This.  I don't see the point.  I realize "things can happen", but eating cold food for a day or few in the unlikely scenario that my stove in unusable is hardly an emergency situation.  I don't see it being worth the weight at all.


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A backup stove? Do I need to start carrying a backup tent, sleeping bag also?

You know, this two is one and one is none BS needs to go away. If something fails in the backcountry (and it will) just deal with it.

Funny you say that. I bring a Bivy in winter for exactly that reason - a backup shelter in case my main shelter gets torn apart from a a storm. It does double duty keeping the spindrift off as well. Mind you, between my 5 man and my Bivy, I'm still at 4.25 lbs.

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A backup stove? Do I need to start carrying a backup tent, sleeping bag also?

Can I bring a backup wife too?

Unless talking about long-term, severe winter camping, this thread's premise: (Should I bring a spare anything?)  is laughable.

Why?


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