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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 6:07 pm |
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A jaguar has been captured and collared near Tucson (HikeArizona link)
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 6:57 pm |
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Well congratulations to the AGFD crew!
They’ve been work toward this for over ten years.
A book was published just last year that had several photos from camera traps of these critters. I was a bit disappointed in the book, I wanted to see more of the jags, but I guess they gave us what they had. Most of the book was filled with other wildlife (and some non-wildlife) which was still interesting.
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 7:07 pm |
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I've always understood they were there, just so elusive to be rarely seen/ never caught or photographed to document the sightings.
Now somebodies gotten collared ............ (busted)
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 7:20 pm |
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Let's hope he gets some and produces some kittehs.
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 8:41 pm |
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Kayaking amongst killer whales is probably the most humbling moment I've ver had in the wild. Second would be a 900 pound Silvertip standing up to me at less than 9 yards on the Ranch. Third is definitely a jaguar in tall grass just a dozen yards away.
I would love to sit on a mesa and watch one for an early evening sometime.
Thanks for posting.
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SW Mtn backpacker
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 8:44 pm |
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Great news but so much for soloing low-lying arid grasslands ... 
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The Nature Boy
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 9:13 pm |
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A collar? When they had a perfect shot from 100 yards?
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 9:19 pm |
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(desert dweller @ Feb. 20 2009, 7:11 pm)
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(SW Mtn backpacker @ Feb. 20 2009, 6:44 pm)
QUOTE Great news but so much for soloing low-lying arid grasslands ... Looking back 12 years when I started hiking the Arizona Trail at the Mexican Border, it's easy to imagine I was being watched. Big cats were more skiddish back then and I've never seen one in southern Arizona while backpacking. So, I guess, I didn't hesitate to hike the low deserts. My curent progress on the AzTrail has taken me out of the range of the Border jaguars.
Haven't had a mountain lion problem in these regions that I am aware of (unlike California and some other states), so hopefully the few jaguars in the US maintain their shyness.
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2009, 10:20 pm |
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Good to see wild is still part of wilderness.
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Posted on: Feb. 21 2009, 1:24 am |
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I'll add this to the list of things to look for at night when I'm out there.
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Posted on: Feb. 21 2009, 9:48 am |
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What is a silvertip, DC?
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Posted on: Feb. 21 2009, 11:37 pm |
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I didn't realize that Jaguars made it that far north. They're usually talked about as a Central American jungle cat so it'd never crossed my mind that they'd also be a Southwest desert cat too.
It would be pretty cool to see one of those in the wild. My first instinct is that you'd not have to worry about an attack as much with them as you would with a mountain lion or grizzly, and the mountain lion attacks are already pretty rare, but I just looked up both the cougar and leopard and while their both about the same height at the shoulder and the cougar is significantly longer, the jaguar weight range for males is almost twice that of the cougar. That's a big cat. I have no idea why I always thought they were smaller than leopards.
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Posted on: Feb. 23 2009, 2:58 pm |
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A friend and I spotted a black jaguar a couple of years ago on the boarder down here in El Paso, we had to take a second look to make sure we were seeing what we thought we were seeing.
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2009, 12:33 am |
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There's a sad update. The collared jaguar, a 16 year-old male, was recaptured and euthanized after suffering kidney failure. There is a picture of him (still alive) in the thread I linked to in the first post.
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2009, 2:25 am |
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Hey big_load,
Thanks for the sad update. What a shame. One might have hoped he'd be allowed the dignity of a death in the wild, as he lived his life, but alas, such wasn't the case.
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In response to hiking tiger's "Domesticated cats moving back into the US." ------"heres your sign".
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2009, 9:44 am |
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Tragic news.
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They just don't get it. It's more than just protecting and studying the jaguars that make it into the Southwest. It's about giving quarter to wild areas in general.
Ariz. agency wants jaguar proposal pulled
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PHOENIX (AP) — The Arizona Game and Fish Department has asked that a proposal aimed at designating land in New Mexico and Arizona as critical habitat for the jaguar be withdrawn.
The agency recently told the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service that the rare jaguar's primary habitat is in Central and South America and that land in Arizona and New Mexico make up less than one percent of the species' historic range.
Officials with the agency say both states aren't essential to the conservation of jaguars, although male jaguars from Mexico have been spotted in southern Arizona.
In August, federal wildlife officials proposed designating more than 1,300 square miles in New Mexico and Arizona as critical habitat for the jaguar.
The rare cat was placed on the federal endangered species list in 1997.
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I was in SW CO and SE UT when the cat died, sad indeed. I can only speculate as warm and dry as it was at that time perhaps that tranquilizer exascerbated dehyradtion, I don't know, would like to though.
On the Land Issue: Travis might be able to share his opinion and support or contest me on some of my assumptionson but this my understanding of the way it worked in Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana with wolves, and it might be something that might help us predict the future here.
In the earliest 90s a "canine" was shot in the Teton Wilderness of the Bridger-Teton National Forest just south of the border of Yellowstone NP's vast Southern Wilderness right near the headwaters of the Snake River. If that "canine" had been classified as a wolf there very well might have been reason for the endangered species act to kick in for a "native," not "experimental" population. Wolf sighting/hearing reports were purportedly increasing in multiple areas of the Northern Rockies. A native wolf population would likely have imposed far greater restrictions on the resource extraction industy. I think that's why all the Governors, Congressmen, etc. got on board with re-introduction.
There was a court case about 10 years ago where a judge ruled there had likely been a native population and apparently opened the door to possible action to limit if not cease the reintroductory program; but it was overturned on appeal as I remember; whatever the case the program of course went on.
I don't know that there will be proposal for jaguar reintroduction in Arizona. I have no idea of what historical data there is but I have to wonder if the climate in much of Arizona and New Mexico isn't far more inhospitable than it was when jaguars last populated the area. All I know is that with the designation that the G&F now doesn't want to happen would certainly cause restrictions of some sort.
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Tell AZ G&F "good luck with that". They better home for a Mormon roll tomorrow.
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