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http://livability.com/top-100-best-places-to-live#/palo-alto/ca

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My city didn't make the list, but many nearby ones in California did - looks like CA had more cities make the list than any other state.  My reasons for loving where I live include the year-round hiking access close by in a wide variety of beautiful terrain

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There must be some weird methodology at work here. Seattle does not make the top 100, but Tacoma does? (And Seattle suburb Bellevue is #12.)

(I know that these things can always be debated, but that combination of results seem especially whacky.)
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#2 for Boulder.

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Podunk, Wyoming is not even listed. Where do these people get this stuff? Glad I don't live in town.

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There must be some weird methodology at work here. Seattle does not make the top 100, but Tacoma does? (And Seattle suburb Bellevue is #12.)

(I know that these things can always be debated, but that combination of results seem especially whacky.)

For some odd reason, it only included cities with a population between 20.000 and 350,000.

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This kind of stuff is totally irrelevant to anything realistic.

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There must be some weird methodology at work here. Seattle does not make the top 100, but Tacoma does? (And Seattle suburb Bellevue is #12.)

(I know that these things can always be debated, but that combination of results seem especially whacky.)

For some odd reason, it only included cities with a population between 20.000 and 350,000.

Now that you mention it, I see that buried in their methodology description. It's extremely odd that they did not include this information more prominently on the main page.
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Not exactly a list for hikers & backpackers ... Anchorage is 91?!?!?

What truly gives it a lack of credence is when you see that five Iowa cities were listed ahead of Anchorage.

I went to university in Iowa, and have driven through most of the state ... it's nothing to brag about from a hiking & backpacking perspective. I was in Anchorage last month ... I'd locate there in a heartbeat if I had to move the to US. Saw Bozeman up there at #22 ... my second choice for US cities.


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Well St. Louis made the list (no. 100)... ever been to St.Louis?

Good grief.

Some very good towns on that list, including my birthplace of Palo Alto.

But I'll take Bozeman...


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Well St. Louis made the list (no. 100)... ever been to St.Louis?

A friend of mine is on the SLPD SWAT.  The pace of operations that he works tells me that it's not exactly an urban paradise.

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They chose cities of that size because there are enough people in those places for patterns to be drawn. All of the variables included reflect patterns.

For the upper limit of 350,000, quality of life within the pattern probably drops off precipitously...


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Only three in Colorado

Aurora made the cut, but Fort Collins did not?

WTF?
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Well St. Louis made the list (no. 100)... ever been to St.Louis?

Yes, I lived in the city and worked or the county for six years (in law enforcement) so I know a thing or two about the area.

The city's not as bad as he press it receives.  There is plenty of crime, but like many urban areas it is mostly found in certain neighborhoods.  The city has plenty of nice areas with lots of things to do.  Saint Louis resident love sports; especially baseball and hockey.  The city's museums and cultural attractions are excellent.

Lots of good places to eat in Saint Louis, too.  Housing is affordable and there are plenty of good employers in the Saint Louis area that pay vey well.  Barnes Hospital is one of the best in the US.

Within a two-hour drive of Saint Louis you will find good hiking and excellent paddling.  I really enjoyed kayaking the state's rivers and creeks.  It's nice to see the Ozark Trail being developed by the Ozark Trail Association.

Chicago's a much worse place crime wise than Saint Louis in the Midwest.

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Yup, pretty much this.

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Well St. Louis made the list (no. 100)... ever been to St.Louis?

Yes, I lived in the city and worked or the county for six years (in law enforcement) so I know a thing or two about the area.

The city's not as bad as he press it receives.  There is plenty of crime, but like many urban areas it is mostly found in certain neighborhoods.  The city has plenty of nice areas with lots of things to do.  Saint Louis resident love sports; especially baseball and hockey.  The city's museums and cultural attractions are excellent.

Lots of good places to eat in Saint Louis, too.  Housing is affordable and there are plenty of good employers in the Saint Louis area that pay vey well.  Barnes Hospital is one of the best in the US.

Within a two-hour drive of Saint Louis you will find good hiking and excellent paddling.  I really enjoyed kayaking the state's rivers and creeks.  It's nice to see the Ozark Trail being developed by the Ozark Trail Association.

Chicago's a much worse place crime wise than Saint Louis in the Midwest.

RS

The article said St. Louis... not St. Louis County, Webster Groves, Kirkwood, Ladue, Chesterfield., et al.

And yes, the city of St. Louis is crime ridden.

Some of the worst weather in America.

Polluted.

Horrible traffic.

But at least the countryside is chigger and tick infected :D

Ii is, without doubt however, the greatest baseball city in America.

And yes, I lived there far longer than 6 years.


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Having lived in several places that make the worst places to live list, anywhere can be a great place if you have the right attitude; good friends and cold beer help too.

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Most of the major crime in Saint Louis is in North City; in the county, it is the North County region.  North County is getting more and more people from North City, go figure.  There are far worse places than Saint Louis for traffic.

And of course, no matter what the subject, Brad from MT is all Knowing...about everything, no matter what the subject.  Can you tell us what it's like working law enforcement in North County, all knowing one...

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Most of the major crime in Saint Louis is in North City; in the county, it is the North County region.  North County is getting more and more people from North City, go figure.  There are far worse places than Saint Louis for traffic.

And of course, no matter what the subject, Brad from MT is all Knowing...about everything, no matter what the subject.  Can you tell us what it's like working law enforcement in North County, all knowing one...

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Got your panties in a wad there Sven? God forbid anyone would contradict you. Finally, got a little more out of you than non-committed, 3rd person drivel.

You're the one that included the various counties... remember that there Sven. Those were your rules, not mine.

Have seen drive-bye's in N County. Not too pleasant.

A friends mother and grandmother were stabbed and slashed to death, in the city proper, in what was one of the most gruesome crimes in St. Louis homicide history.

I taught school in N. County, and lived there briefly... yes, I've seen it.

And yeah, lived in St.Louis for 16 years.

A Top 100 City In America?

Not in any universe I inhabit.

From Wiki:

Crime in St. Louis includes an overview of crime both in the city of St. Louis and in the Greater St. Louis metropolitan area. Crime in the city increased from the 1960s through the early 1990s as measured by the index crime rate, followed by a decline in crime rates through 2011. Despite decreasing crime, rates of violent crime and property crime in both the city and the metropolitan area remain higher than the national metropolitan area average.[1] In addition, the city of St. Louis consistently has been ranked among the most dangerous cities in the United States. However, these rankings are controversial and do not necessarily reflect the crime risk of the metropolitan area.


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Mine didn't make the list.

Cool.
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Mine didn't make the list either. I think that they missed out.
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