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Tonight Miguel Cabrera became the first MLB  Triple Crown winner since Carl Yastrzemski in 1967.  I had started to think there would never be another.

Also, Derek Jeter finished the season with 3304 hits, 11th on the all-time list.  Barring injury, he'll move up to 6th or even 5th next year.  He could reach 4th in two years and 3rd in three. He would still be the youngest to reach those levels, but doubt he'll play long enough pass Ty Cobb or Pete Rose, although that might be his secret goal.

Edit:  I should say AL Triple Crown, the first in either league since 1967,
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As a lifetime Red Sox fan I'm dissapointed; as a Sports Fan  I must congratulate Miguel on a truly awesome feat. Well done.

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Congratulations to Miguel, a truly awesome feat.

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As a lifetime Red Sox fan I'm dissapointed; as a Sports Fan  I must congratulate Miguel on a truly awesome feat. Well done.

Ugh. It's almost like the old days, but without the curse it's just not as much fun.  I liked it better when the Sox gave you hope all season and then ripped out your heart in a game 7 cliff hanger.  They played so bad and did so many stupid things this year, it was impossible to like the team.  Next year… [\rant]

Congrats to Cabrera.  It's good that it happened this year and not two years ago when he would have gotten an (implied) steroid asterisk.
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An enormous accomplishment! Congrats to him! This probably makes him a lock for the AL MVP or do you guy's think not necessarily?
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An enormous accomplishment! Congrats to him! This probably makes him a lock for the AL MVP or do you guy's think not necessarily?

Probably so.  Jeter is the only real competition, since he led the majors in hits and has sentimental support, but I think he's a distant second on the merits.  He will finish his career with everything but an MVP.
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An enormous accomplishment! Congrats to him! This probably makes him a lock for the AL MVP or do you guy's think not necessarily?

Probably so.  Jeter is the only real competition, since he led the majors in hits and has sentimental support, but I think he's a distant second on the merits.  He will finish his career with everything but an MVP.

Actually, the voting will be close between Cabrerra and Mike Trout.

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Actually, the voting will be close between Cabrerra and Mike Trout.

Trout has a lot of support, but his team didn't make the playoffs or even put together a real challenge.  On the other hand, one could say Detroit benefited from being in such a weak division.
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I get it but it's annoying to open up ESPN and their front page had a picture of Cano and how the Yanks won the division. Really? Who cares. Miguel did something that hasn't been done in 45 years and you show a division winner?
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Trout had an unbelievable year, especially for a rookie. I don't think with his team not making the playoffs he will garner enough votes. Stranger things have happened though.
Right now Miguel should be receiving all the accolades.
Let's have some predictions as to the top five vote getters for the AL MVP award.
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1) Miguel Cabrera
2) Mike Trout
3) Josh Hamilton
4) Robinson Cano
5) Derek Jeter
Numbers 3,4 and 5 could be fairly interchangeable. What do you guys think?
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Your guess is as good as mine.  A lot of Yankee fans would probably pick Cano ahead of Jeter.  I wonder how it would have looked if Ichiro had a whole season in NY.  If he played his whole career in the US at his MLB career production levels, he'd be at 3909 hits now, with an easy shot at picking off Pete Rose with five years to spare.

By the way, I think the 2012 playoff format sucks.  The division winners shouldn't start with two road games.  I know they fixed it for 2013, but they could have changed the 2012 schedule instead of locking down the dates before locking down the playoff format.
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I was thinking about manager of the year, which led me do some interesting calculations.  The Yankees winning percentage was 10 points less than that of their top 6 starters, which is probably about normal.  Baltimore's winning percentage was 35 points better than that of their top six starters, which just seems crazy.  I figure Buck Showalter has a good shot at his third manager of the year.  If so, it also means he's two years away from being unemployed.
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It would seem that Showalter is the odd's on favorite for that award. The improvement in Baltimores record from last year to this was quite dramatic.
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Over/under on how many Astros that finished the year on the major league roster will be on next year's opening day roster:


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I was doing a little research on the Triple Crown last night.  1966 was the year Frank Robinson won the Triple Crown, so there was a Triple Crown winner two years in a row with Yaz winning it in 1967.  Major league baseball began by most accounts in 1876.  There had been at least one Triple Crown winner in every decade since then except 1880, the a drought of 45 years since 1967.  I am surprised it too so long.

MVP talk--Trout was pretty much equal with Cabrera and a much better fielder, but his team didn't make the playoffs.  If I were voting, I'd probably go with Cabrera, but in a squeaker.


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There had been at least one Triple Crown winner in every decade since then except 1880, the a drought of 45 years since 1967.  I am surprised it too so long.

The most common argument I've seen is that expansion made it statistically much harder.  Being better than that many more players in all three categories has a much lower probability.
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Over/under on how many Astros that finished the year on the major league roster will be on next year's opening day roster:

7

Holy cow!  They'll have to beef up their legal department to handle so many new contracts.  :laugh:
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