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cgaphiker 
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 7:32 pm |
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Basal cell carcinoma ain't deadly, but it ain't no fun either.
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red dog
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 7:45 pm |
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Yeah. Basal and squamous cell carcinoma … I get cut 2 or 3 times a year.
Face, neck, both ears, both shoulders, back, stomach, both hands, and one foot.
I'm on a 3 month recall schedule. They almost always find something new.
I even hike in the summer with gloves now. Should have been more careful when I was younger.
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 7:55 pm |
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eyebp
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 7:58 pm |
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I'm screwed.
You are still beautiful bro-man. Don't forget sunscreen for HOTB.
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VAN
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 8:14 pm |
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Sorry you had to go under the knife on your birthday.
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GlenG
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 8:32 pm |
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I'm right there with you man. Had one removed from my back about a year ago or so. I got me a wide brimmed hat for sunny days when fishing or hiking. Too many days working on the farm with no shirt from in my teen years.
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MsDoolittle
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 8:33 pm |
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That sucks. Keep an eye on that crap.
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spindle
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 8:45 pm |
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Ouch.
The bandage makes you look rugged though.
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 8:47 pm |
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Good advice!
Maybe you could start wearing one of these:
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tarol
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 9:06 pm |
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Always, and starting my kid out young - whenever we're outside we're wearing sunscreen, hats, and sunglasses (don't forget about your eyes)
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CajunHiker
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 9:37 pm |
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Man, you look bada$$ now! YIKES!!
But yes, I'm a big advocate of sunscreen and hats myself. I used to get natural highlights in my hair before I started wearing hats all the time.
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RebeccaD
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012, 11:32 pm |
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Ditto. My kids are pretty well trained. I'm partly protected by having been a WA kid, and one who burned easily so avoided exposure even when everyone else was sunning.
The DH sees the dermatologist at least once a year. He's a California native from before the days of sunscreen.
Since it was melanoma that got my dad (and he was another CA kid) we take it very seriously.
Those who were at PG saw my approach. I use the cotton gloves, too. Not only protects from sun, but keeps my hands from drying out and my finger tips from splitting.
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Posted on: Oct. 05 2012, 6:53 am |
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Got healthier and got the women checkin. Win-Win.
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Deborah
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Posted on: Oct. 05 2012, 8:10 am |
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According to the experts I'm doomed since I never used sunscreen, as a kid, and was outside most of the summer. We called it "sun TAN" lotion not sunscreen. My tan lines always lasted most of the winter. I can only hope that my American Indian (Native American or whatever the current popular name is) genes will save me.
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red dog
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Posted on: Oct. 05 2012, 9:10 am |
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Most skin cancers are not too big a deal is delt with promptly.
Most skin damage occurs between the ages of 2 and 25, and presents it's self in later life. Additional exposure aggravates existing problems.
I highly encourage anyone over the age of 35 to find a dermatologist for a check up at least annually.
If you are not high risk, that is all it will take. If you are high risk, they will bring you back more frequently.
The key IS, deal with it early.
In order of severity:
Basal Cell- Considered non lethal but can be unsightly or even disfiguring is not dealt with
Squamous Cell - More severe, not generally considered lethal but should be dealt with early...this is the one that took out my Dad
Melanoma - This is the bad boy. This one will take you out if not dealt with immediately
I don't preach about things very often, but I do have a passion for this subject. If you don't have a dermatologist, FIND ONE.
I was careless when I was young and I am paying the price today.
cgap: Was that Mohs surgery or are you still waiting on lab results to assure they got all of this one ?
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cgaphiker
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Posted on: Oct. 05 2012, 11:50 am |
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Not sure what you mean by Mohs.
Geez, I have a black eye now.
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red dog
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Posted on: Oct. 05 2012, 12:16 pm |
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Oh, sorry…
In a lot of cases, the Dr cuts you, closes you up and sends you home. The tissue sample then goes to the lab for inspection. About a week later your Dr gets a report … they got it all, or there were still bad cells on the margins of the sample. In the latter case, the Dr calls you back in to do some more cutting.
Mohs is when they cut a patch out and send the tissue ‘across the hall’ to be read under the microscope. They look at the margins for the presence of bad cells. If the margins are ‘clean’, they stitch you up and send you home. If the margins are ‘not clean’, they cut you some more and so on. The cool thing about this Mohs is that you KNOW they got it all before you leave the office.
Sorry about the black eye. Do we get to see a photo of that ?
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Tigger
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Posted on: Oct. 05 2012, 12:23 pm |
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Yep. Been getting checked every six months for the last couple years. The doc says I only need to come in annually but I'm willing to pay for the extra checks. Being a Southern Cali kid, I've baked, fried, simmered, and microwaved my skin as a kid.
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hiking_tiger
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Posted on: Oct. 05 2012, 12:26 pm |
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With my current hair-do (or lack thereof), I'm extra careful with sun exposure.
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red dog
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Posted on: Oct. 05 2012, 1:48 pm |
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WoW…Nice one !
It takes a real man to put a photo like that of himself on the internet.
Don’t worry, your good looks will return soon.
Oh, Happy Birthday by the way.
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Posted on: Oct. 11 2012, 4:07 pm |
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As someone that has spent much of my childhood and adult years outside in the sun, the notion of skin cancer has always scared me. At least years ago, a fair number of people tended to have annual episodes of sunburn while growing up like it was no big thing that was no doubt due somewhat to cultural norms and lack of parental considered importance. Repeated sunburns can eventually start the skin DNA changes that eventually lead to problems. I recall getting severe summertime sunburns as a small child, then enduring the unpleasant pain especially at night afterwards. So learned as a kid to put on a baseball cap when venturing out about summertime California landscapes. Growing up about the hot sunny Sacramento area, by early summer most of we kids all had deep dark tans that protected us without burning. But its getting to that point where trouble lies. Then later as a teen read about skin cancer and began to take the notion of using sunscreen as worthwhile.
Of course numbers of adult males don't tend to use sunscreen even when they should maybe because cosmetics grate against our sense of maleness. I still see this today every spring at ski resorts. Usually it is the the novice skiers that infrequently ski just one to few times a winter that one will see with very very red faces during early afternoon apparently oblivious to the fact they have been frying their faces. Of course the same thing readily occurs for others engaging in summer water sports. Another supposedly strong link exists between long term tobacco smoking and skin cancers and of course even without the sun, many smoker's skin tend to begin looking rather degenerated even in their mid forties.
Out in the backcountry I've been wearing one of these sun hats with a large bill and neck drape many years:
http://www.amazon.com/Supplex-Mens-CoolMax-Face-Shroud/dp/B003P36KEE
Not only to protect from sun but also from mosquitoes and black flies. Only sun hat product I've seen that has velcro removal of the drape. I also tend to wear long sleeve and long pants most of the time as our higher altitude sun in the Sierra backcountry is rather intense with bright white granite geology dominant and thus dangerous if one is out there as much as I am. Of course much of one susceptibility is genetic and together with having protected it for years, my ski now nearing retirement looks not much different than most fortysomethings.
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red dog
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Posted on: Oct. 11 2012, 9:16 pm |
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(eggs @ Oct. 11 2012, 3:53 pm)
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(red dog @ Oct. 05 2012, 9:10 am)
QUOTE If you are high risk, they will bring you back more frequently. So how do you know if your high risk. Based on parents or siblings 
The Dr will tell you when to come back.
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cgaphiker
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Posted on: Oct. 12 2012, 2:48 am |
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(red dog @ Oct. 11 2012, 9:16 pm)
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(eggs @ Oct. 11 2012, 3:53 pm)
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(red dog @ Oct. 05 2012, 9:10 am)
QUOTE If you are high risk, they will bring you back more frequently. So how do you know if your high risk. Based on parents or siblings The Dr will tell you when to come back.
Also people with lighter complexions tend to be at higher risk. Time spent in the sun, etc.
I read somewhere that most people get the majority of their exposure by the time they are twenty.
I think that a sunburn that I got traveling from SF to Kansas when I was eighteen is the reason I have had four on my face. I was in my thirties when I got the first one, and that is way early.
I'll be going back every six months. They also took pics. And my Dr is quite the cutie. 
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Posted on: Oct. 12 2012, 10:42 am |
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Yikes, cgaph, take care.
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