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Did these people not see The Perfect Storm?
http://www.witn.com/home....31.html
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The full force of the storm is  subsiding this morning  on  the OBX of NC. But you have  to salute the courage of the Coasties who have to go out  into the rage of  a stor m to rescue mariners. Makes me wonder why they were out there in the first place.
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It's a shame to lose such a ship.

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My prayers go out to every Coastie in the path of Sandy.  Days like this are where we write new chapters in our history books.

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Wow!  I was on that ship at the Tall Ship Challenge in Savannah GA this May.  It was built for the movie Mutiny on the Bounty with Marlon Brando in 1960.  I'm hunkering down for the storm in Maryland.

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Not to be harsh, but it sounds like they narrowly averted being finalists in the Darwin awards.

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It's a sad loss, with grim prospects for the two still missing.  I visited that ship a few years ago in Maine.  I wish I could have sailed on it, but not in a hurricane.
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Did these people not see The Perfect Storm?
http://www.witn.com/home....31.html

Interesting, you should mention "Perfect Storm" which is actually more a work of fiction than a factual account.

Here's a more accurate version of the story:

http://www.westsail.org/satoristorm
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Yes, cudos to our Coast Guard.

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The question is, why were they out sailing this ship in the ocean when we/they have known about the storm for about a week?

That ship is very valuable, and the 2lives that may have been lost more valuable, so I hope somebody answers for this terrible lapse in judgement!
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Video:
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The question is, why were they out sailing this ship in the ocean when we/they have known about the storm for about a week?

That ship is very valuable, and the 2lives that may have been lost more valuable, so I hope somebody answers for this terrible lapse in judgement!

I think I would withhold judgment for now.  The owner of the ship was apparently unable to communicate with the crew.  Those boats move very slowly compared to modern boats (or even, in the case of this one, compared to other large "tall ship" designs).  We don't know where they started.  They were trying to make a safe harbor, and not many on that coast could handle the boat.  

It looks like a couple of people may have died.  The least we can do is refrain from jumping to conclusions, and let the process of inquiry (which will happen) take it's course.
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Everyone reportedly made it safely to the rafts in their exposure suits but the rafts unfortunately flipped in the seas and high wind ( that second raft going over is remarked on some time into the video).

That aircrew did an amazing job maintaining control in those winds at that altitude ( at times FIFTEEN feet!)

The missing deck crewman has been located, but unresponsive, the captain is still being searched for.
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The question is, why were they out sailing this ship in the ocean when we/they have known about the storm for about a week?

That ship is very valuable, and the 2lives that may have been lost more valuable, so I hope somebody answers for this terrible lapse in judgement!

I wondered the same thing, because of what the news reports said. But after what jmarklane said, maybe they were already out there and tried to get to a safe port.

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Apparently they left CONN on 10/25 heading to St Petersburgh, FL. The generator quit and the engine quit taking away their ability to remove water and to make headway. The vessel was better off on the seas than in port. They considered Sandy and its implications.

It will be interesting to see what comes of this.
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The lady who died was from about 20 miles from my home in Vian, Oklahoma.  Her Mom said she loved being part of the crew.

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Commentary on the decision to put out to sea from a fellow tall ship captain:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novasco....captain
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More insight into what may have happened.
http://www.latimes.com/news....9.story
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I was on the Bounty at the 1964 World Fair in New York. It was a true bummer to learn of the loss.
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I was on the Bounty at the 1964 World Fair in New York. It was a true bummer to learn of the loss.

Ha! Was there in 64' as well.. what a loss of a great ship. RIP for the two crew.

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I was on the Bounty at the 1964 World Fair in New York. It was a true bummer to learn of the loss.

Ha! Was there in 64' as well.. what a loss of a great ship. RIP for the two crew.

I visited it a couple years ago in Maine.  Tall ships are so enthralling.  The ship and crew are sad losses.
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Was on it this summer.

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I visited it a couple years ago in Maine.  Tall ships are so enthralling.  The ship and crew are sad losses.

BL, where in Maine was she?

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Boothbay Harbor.  There must have been some kind of event in progress, because there  were a few tall ships and many classic wooden boats.
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Thanks.

Haven't been to Boothbay form many decades.

Hard to beat the Maine Coast...

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Boothbay Harbor.  There must have been some kind of event in progress, because there  were a few tall ships and many classic wooden boats.

The WoodenBoat Show was at Mystic this year, as it's going to be next year, so maybe some were traveling around before or after. I attended one in Rockport a ways back. Nice town.

I think they may have standardized on Mystic at some point. It used to bounce around, Chesapeake etc.
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It was probably in the summer of 2008.
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What a sad story.

As a merchant mariner who operates a passenger vessel (ferry), I have been following this story with a good deal of interest.  I will offer this - in my mind the prudent mariner finds someplace to hide out and not needlessly endanger the life and safety of the crew and the vessel.  

It is supremely arrogant to gamble in such a fashion with human life.  Equipment is fallible, and always seems to have a way of failing at exactly the wrong time.  Over the years I have heard a number of sea stories where ego, and an attitude of being smarter than mother nature have put people's lives and vessels needlessly at risk, it's just not worth it.

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I will offer this - in my mind the prudent mariner finds someplace to hide out and not needlessly endanger the life and safety of the crew and the vessel.

I agree.

Part of the problem with thinking through situations like this is that the individual/s making the decisions often think what they are doing is prudent, no matter what they decide.  This captain obviously felt they could manage the situation, despite the reported problems they had been experiencing in the past.  They had been able to manage in the past and in his way of thinking, they would manage this.  

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For those who sailed on her: were they manned for handling the sails in heavy weather at 18 crew or was that light and left them vulnerable to a propulsion failure?
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