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Unfortunately saw that on the way home tonight, passing traffic on the right shoulder at about 75, worked well until the shoulder narrowed at a curve. Last I saw of him, he was being loaded on a LifeFlight helicopter.
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(HighGravity @ Nov. 12 2012, 6:40 pm)
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QUOTE Some folks just need attention. And some folks (Harley Riders) really don't care what others may think. That's the problem.
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You beat me to it. That was my thought exactly.
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City Man
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 8:59 pm |
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QCHIKER
QUOTE Hikejer, I've noticed that too. Plus I always get a kick that they have to wear Harley clothing, yet you never see a Honda or BMW rider with their logo all on their clothes or a Jeep or Ford guy having to wear their logos whenever they set foot in a Jeep or Ford.
Wait a minute, I happen to have all kinds of Harley clothing, oh almost forgot that I have also owned a Harley on and off going back to the early 70s and a lot of the items were gifts throughout the years.  
Then lets face it, depending on our hobbies a good amount of people like to display there interests in one way or another. Then we have the old - Calvin pissing on a FORD emblem decal or Calvin pissing on the Chevy emblem decal being proudly displayed on the back window of some FORD and Chevy trucks.
I think that a lot of good people like to display their interests to others with a certain amount of pride, be it true pride or a false pride. Then unfortunately there are all to many people who like to put down other peoples interests in order to convince themselves that their toys are better then your toys. Who’s to say? “Comme ci, comme ca”
HighGravity
QUOTE In North Carolina, when they're not robbing liquor stores they seem to spend a lot of time poking down the Blue Ridge Parkway. The noise carries for miles. It hard to camp in the area and not hear them throughout the day.
Unfortunately or fortunately for you, you happen to live in an area that is a Mecca sort of speaking for cursing through some wonderful scenery.
Woodswoman
QUOTE I will say about the only time I enjoy it is when I see the Harley folks riding through town doing their Toys for Tots ride. Now that's a fun sight to see, noise and all
Do a couple every year, in fact you have reminded me to give a couple of friends a call to see which ones we will be doing this year.
TDale
QUOTE You never heard my trail bikes.
What kind of bike do you have, I have a little TW200, sure is a lot of fun.
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(City Man @ Nov. 12 2012, 8:59 pm)
QUOTE TDale QUOTE You never heard my trail bikes. What kind of bike do you have, I have a little TW200, sure is a lot of fun.
Having nearly killed myself three times, I'm no longer allowed on motorcycles...by myself.
I had, or rode regularly, a suzuki 200, a suzuki 250 trials bike that would stand straight up if mishandled, and a very tall honda 360.
All three tried to kill me so I quit. What finally convinced me was landing on my face and grinding the faceshield of my full coverage helmet...opaque.
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RumiDude
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 9:59 pm |
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Is this a seriopus problem? Naw, just a pet peeve of a few. Most Harley riders are respectable people with respectable jobs enjoying a respectable hobby. That on a very few occassions a few people have their sensibilities slightly tried does not mean Harley riders are either rude or selfish.
I have owned and ridden Harleys. I have also owned and ridden bicycles, putting 1000s of miles on my bike in both urban streets and open roads. In all those miles and years, I have never once had a problem with a motorcyclist of any brand, especially Harleys. But I have been threatened and assalted by people in autos and trucks, I have been ridden off the road by little old ladies, and been rear-ended at stop lights by drivers claiming they did not see me. Harley noise is of little consequence to me.
And as far as noises go, noise and polution from trucks far excedes that of Harleys. I am far more irritated at people talking loiudly on cell phones in public places than any motorcycle noise I have encounterd. Attending a Harley rally is a different thing ... wear ear plugs. Don't attent Sturgis or Datona Bike Week.
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 11:25 pm |
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(HighGravity @ Nov. 12 2012, 10:49 pm)
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QUOTE Is this a seriopus problem? It's a seriously annoying problem. My wife and I were trying to eat lunch yesterday at a restaurant where we were surrounded by a bunch of old farts in their Harley costumes. When they left we had about 15 minutes where we couldn't speak to each other due to the noise level as these geriatric badasses mounted and revved their engines waiting on the rest of the herd to join them. That's just obnoxious. It's sort of like guys who burp or fart loudly then laugh hysterically.
Nothing about them could be even brushingly close to being as obnoxious as what you just typed here.
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Posted on: Nov. 12 2012, 11:36 pm |
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Rumi, I don't pay enough attention to know if they are Harleys or what, but I do have a real problem with unsafe riding by motorcyclists on the rural roads I cycle. I don't care what they ride--just slow down, quiet down, and keep us all safer!
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Sounds like a first world problem to me. 
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Most Harley riders are respectable people. They are often lawyers, doctors, teachers, engineers, technicians, law enforcement officers, sales people, business people, firefighters, and similar professional people ... just like backpackers. You know Backpackers ... those dirty smelly loudmouthed assholes that like to invade restaurants for their post hike burger and beer. They wear their dirty backpacker badass costumes around, tracking in dirt along with their haven't-washed-in-five-days body odor. They all have to sit together so they rudely move tables together and take every empty chair they can find to accomodate their loud smelly group. Then they laugh and talk so loud, making sure everyone in the whole restaurant has to listen to them brag about their childish adventures. Nobody else can use the toilet after they get through making a mess of it. And don't even get me started about through hikers ...
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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 12:32 am |
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Then can I just rant about motorcyclists, of any description, who ride noisy bikes too fast on otherwise quiet country roads? If it helps, I'll complain just as loudly about idiots in cars who also drive too fast, don't move over to pass bicycles, and generally disturb the peace.
Heck, I'm feeling cranky. I just want all the other jerks to get off my roads, okay?
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(RebeccaD @ Nov. 12 2012, 9:32 pm)
QUOTE Then can I just rant about motorcyclists, of any description, who ride noisy bikes too fast on otherwise quiet country roads? If it helps, I'll complain just as loudly about idiots in cars who also drive too fast, don't move over to pass bicycles, and generally disturb the peace.
Heck, I'm feeling cranky. I just want all the other jerks to get off my roads, okay?
I'm cranky too! hehe
It is funny, some of the worst treatment I have received as a bicyclist has come from women in cars. I have had young punks throw stuff at me, but it didn't surprise me that young punks might do that. But two women in minivans have actually hit me while I was on my bike. A woman in rural Illinois repeatedly ran me off the road. A middle aged businessman with his elderly mother in the car (a big ole Cadilac) threatened to run me off a bridge in Kansas City.
I have never had a problem with any motorcyclist ever when riding my bicycle. It may just be my experience is atypical. Yea, but rant all you want about unsafe driving of any kind.
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(City Man @ Nov. 12 2012, 8:59 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE In North Carolina, when they're not robbing liquor stores they seem to spend a lot of time poking down the Blue Ridge Parkway. The noise carries for miles. It hard to camp in the area and not hear them throughout the day. Unfortunately or fortunately for you, you happen to live in an area that is a Mecca sort of speaking for cursing through some wonderful scenery.
I can see people from all over making the pilgrimage"
"Look at all those f*&king pretty trees"
"These hills are the nicest GD place I've ever been"
"This sh*t is spectacular!"
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(JimInMD @ Nov. 13 2012, 5:34 am)
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QUOTE QUOTE In North Carolina, when they're not robbing liquor stores they seem to spend a lot of time poking down the Blue Ridge Parkway. The noise carries for miles. It hard to camp in the area and not hear them throughout the day. Unfortunately or fortunately for you, you happen to live in an area that is a Mecca sort of speaking for cursing through some wonderful scenery. I can see people from all over making the pilgrimage" "Look at all those f*&king pretty trees" "These hills are the nicest GD place I've ever been" "This sh*t is spectacular!"
Sounds like a bunch of backpackers getting together.
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I like loud pipes.  In fact I just sold a bike that had crazy loud pipes and I am in search of the next eardrum breaker.
Now the clothes...y'all have fun with that but you won't be seeing RanD wearing a leather vest with tassels.
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(smokehiker @ Nov. 13 2012, 6:55 am)
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That's the problem. It's a short life.......can't be concerned with the judgement others may express about me.
You can justify narcissism anyway you want. Doesn't make it okay.
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I to, find the loud pipes not only rude but illegal.
I don't understand how a car with no mufflers is to loud and ticketed for it but a bike isn't.
I'd like to see the noise law enforced.
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I ride a BMW and have enjoyed motorcycling for many years, usually either a Ducati or Beemer. IMHO the loud pipes are a form of expression, style and coolness.It just depends on your personal taste. Certainly, not my style. Yet, I respect the rights of those who choose to do so and the fact they are riding motorcycles. At times I do feel bad for the loud pipe set though, as it must be very uncomfortable on long rides dealing with the vibration and noise.
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That's the problem. It's a short life.......can't be concerned with the judgement others may express about me. You can justify narcissism anyway you want. Doesn't make it okay.
You want to call my non-paranoid lifestyle narcissism?
Let me repeat myself........I'm not concerned with your judgement of me, or my views. I don't care if that's OK with you or not.
Don't know how I can simplify that any more than it is.
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QUOTE So why do Harley owners think they have to annouce their presence with the god-awful noice that so often accompanies them? Just plain rude and a bit childish, IMO. Any insights?  Yes, watch this.-Don-
That was an awesome episode of South Park. We watched that shortly after it came out and laughed our arses off.
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QUOTE Attending a Harley rally is a different thing ... wear ear plugs. Don't attent Sturgis or Datona Bike Week.
Rumi And be sure not to attend Rolling Thunder in D.C. All these childish men and women dress in their costumes and make all that noise. The Marine in this video is obviously annoyed at the loud pipes. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gfnmDGk0KM
These bikers like loud bikes too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2mAz06nP-0
As do these:
http://bacaworld.org/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012....51.html
I love the sound of Harleys. To me they sound like community. But I grew up in the "childish" world of the NJ MCs. The purr of those engines feel like home and happy times.
I have a thing for muscle cars too. And the sound of military aircraft tearing through the air above my house.
All part of the landscape.
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Posted on: Nov. 13 2012, 11:40 am |
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(smokehiker @ Nov. 13 2012, 8:29 am)
QUOTE Let me repeat myself........I'm not concerned with your judgement of me, or my views. I don't care if that's OK with you or not.
Don't know how I can simplify that any more than it is.
You know, I really don't give a rip about your lifestyle or what turns you on. This is a sort of free country after all as you, I think, tried to point out. However, when your life style infringes on my space and impacts my quality of life, I do care and that's what loud pipes do. Maybe in the cosmic scheme of things it's minor as Rumi points out. Still, if I was your neighbor and played my music at deafening levels which impacted your life style, I wonder just how tolerant you'd be. I doubt you'd say that's just him exercising his freedom.
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