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Echo 

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Posted on: Nov. 17 2012, 6:21 pm |
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New Mexico private land, competitive Coyote hunt has at least 60 pairs computing to kill as many coyotes as they can in a two day hunt. But the skins will make nice coats for the homeless. At least one protester vows to dress like a coyote so the hunters can be charged with killing a human
http://www.latimes.com/news....5.story
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no_granola 
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That protester should come to PA. They'd have better odds of being shot.
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Posted on: Nov. 17 2012, 7:26 pm |
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Hi...
Suicide by hunter. Now there's a new one...!!
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ol-zeke 
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 12:09 am |
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Only 1 coyote killed on day 1. Let's see what happens on day 2. Evidently there are so many coyotes over running the countryside in NM that they have bred themselves some rightous camouflage.
How much stock predation can so few coyotes be guilty of? Until Game and Fish or some other outside agency verifies it is a coyote predation, how do the ranchers know which agency to apply to for compensation? Those poor ranchers are so persecuted. Maybe we should rent them some Federal land for under cost. Oh, wait. We do that already.
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wildlifenate 

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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 12:53 am |
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In my conversations with a very smart rancher in Texas, he pointed out to me that even though he has quite a few coyotes on his property (I saw a few of them), he has more livestock depredation problems from stray dogs. Granted, he raised cattle and a few horses. I would imagine ranchers who raised sheep would have different predator problems.
Still, I don't have a problem with someone who decides to hunt coyotes. They have done a very good job historically of eluding persecution as a species in spite of long odds against things like poisoning and in the process they've managed to expand their range and increase in numbers. But making it a competition for quantity is pretty ridiculous and those sorts of things should be prohibited.
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eggs 
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 8:15 am |
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Maybe they should catch and release like a fishing competitions
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 9:44 am |
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In Montana we still have Government Trappers flying in Helo's and killing coyotes by the score... all on your dime.
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ol-zeke 
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 11:22 am |
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Not sure why the US gov't needs to be in the killing coyote business at all, other than the whining of the ranchers.
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reubenstump 
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 11:57 am |
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(double cabin @ Nov. 18 2012, 10:00 am)
QUOTE (BradMT @ Nov. 18 2012, 9:44 am)
QUOTE In Montana we still have Government Trappers flying in Helo's and killing coyotes by the score... all on your dime.
The New Stupid seems to be found in urban centers and among apparently educated people... Urbanites and Suburbanites have been stupid for a long time, putting far more into the Treasury per capita than their country counterparts and letting most of those country folk take out more from the treasury per capita than they put in. We don't shoot coyotes, like badgers they're often ground squirrel killing machines. We also don't raise cattle or sheep though. I would guess there is a lot of outrage in New Mexico from Taos to 'Burque because coyotoes love "free range" chcikens in fenced in back yards. Yeah, but not free range coyotes.
BTW, wolves will eat coyotes, so maybe adding wolves to the mix will help. 
I'm not happy with all the deer in my area, which cost me a lot of time, money, and aggravation each year, but I don't want to see them exterminated, either.
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Lamebeaver 
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 4:28 pm |
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Coyote....the other white meat
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 6:14 pm |
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They need to come and have a hunt around in the places I usually bp at as there are tons of them. I've seen some fairly large packs of them of at least a dozen or so.
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Posted on: Nov. 18 2012, 9:02 pm |
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Like everything else in nature, they serve a purpose. I guess they don't have a problem with rabbits, hantavirus, or Lyme's disease.
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TravisNWood 
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wildlifenate: QUOTE . . . In my conversations with a very smart rancher in Texas, he pointed out to me that even though he has quite a few coyotes on his property (I saw a few of them), he has more livestock depredation problems from stray dogs. Granted, he raised cattle and a few horses. I would imagine ranchers who raised sheep would have different predator problems. . .. The articles below were published about a month ago, and it seems nearly every major news source stifled or neglected the news: Dogs Kill 44 Sheep in Wyoming, Ralph Maughan; (also see Dogs attack sheep, kill 44, Riverton Ranger.) "Dogs running loose have killed 44 sheep north of Riverton, Wyoming. Perhaps a score or more were injured. The incident has received minor attention from the Wyoming media. . . . ¶ Not to worry though, the sheriff sternly chided local dog owners. ¶ The real interest, the real news here, is showing that the ranchers complaints about the burden of wolves are a bunch of malarkey." Domestic dogs killing sheep is an old story in Wyoming, and it's repeated yearly. Killing another coyote (or wolf) does absolutely nothing to remedy the problem of domestic dogs.
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