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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 1:43 pm |
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Rumidude's post got me curious as to how widely-traveled we are? Outside of our own US of A -- how many countries have you visited?
And what constitutes a country? For this purpose, a country is counted if is one of the 193 listed in the UN -- or any of the three additional listed below:
o Kosovo o Palestine o Vatican City
Oh, airport transits don't count!
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Marmotstew 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 1:46 pm |
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How is this different than the other poll? Incomplete poll.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 1:46 pm |
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Brazil, Mexico, Guatemala. I would travel much more if time and finances allowed.
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Firedancer 
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 1:48 pm |
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Not enough!
Canada Mexico England Ireland France
But, my travels tend to be more nature oriented than culture oriented and as such, I still have a lot to see in our own country.
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Lamebeaver 
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:01 pm |
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Does Berkeley count?
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Tigger 
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:01 pm |
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Canada and Mexico...
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:06 pm |
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Canada Mexico Guatemala Honduras El Salvador Nicaragua Costa Rica Panama Ecuador Switzerland France Spain Italy Texas
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:08 pm |
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Texas? Spell it Tejas and it might just qualify...
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:10 pm |
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Canada, Mexico, British Virgin Islands, St Kitts, Italy, Kenya, Netherlands. I think they all have Olympic teams, as well. Spain is on the calendar for next Sept.
I counted the Vatican City as part of Italy, even though they do not. How can it be a country if it doesn't have a beer?
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:12 pm |
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Yes, BVI can count for UK, as it is UK's territory.
Spain is one of my favorites! Be sure to visit the Alhambra in the southern city of Grenada!
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TigerFan 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:41 pm |
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Canada France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia (back then), Monaco, Italy Sweden, Denmark, Norway UK Nevis (St Kitts &), St Martin, BVI, St Lucia, Jamaica, Cayman Islands, Bahamas, Dominican Republic Greece Mexico, Belize, Costa Rica, Guatemala Japan
I think some of the islands are technically territories but, frankly, living in the BVI had very little to do with living in the UK and you'll never convince a BVIslander that they live in the same country as a Caymanian. On the other hand, I don't differentiate the Vatican from Italy. I've probably forgotten a place or two but doubt that I'd get to the 50 mark anyway.
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:56 pm |
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(TigerFan @ Nov. 27 2012, 11:41 am)
QUOTE ...[B]ut, frankly, living in the BVI had very little to do with living in the UK... Impressive list, Tigerfan!
You are right about the contrast, but in "country counting" -- when you visit most any inhabited piece of land, it belongs to some country or another -- and is counted as such.
As an example, it might seem strange for a foreigner who has only ever been to Guam to say that she has been to USA. But then, it would also be illogical to travel to a United States territory and then claim to have never, ever been to the US.
So in your case, BVI counts as one country under UK. Of course, when you do visit England or Scotland, neither would be counted again.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 2:59 pm |
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Canada Mexico Panama Argentina Iceland Norway Finland Italia Germany UK Egypt Saudi Arabia Tanzania
Some of this was while I was in the US Air Force
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 3:06 pm |
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Can't 'vote' in my own poll, but thus far, I've been to 61 countries:
Antigua and Barbuda Bahamas Bangladesh Barbados Belarus Brunei Cambodia Canada China (mainland and Taiwan) Costa Rica Cuba Dominica Dominican Republic East Timor Egypt France (only Paris and Martinique) Greece Grenada Guatemala Haiti India Indonesia Ireland Israel Italy Jamaica Japan Jordan Korea, South Laos Malaysia Malta Mexico Mongolia Morocco Myanmar Nicaragua Palestine Panama Philippines Poland Portugal (and Azores) Russia Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Lucia Saint Martin (Netherlands) Saint Vincent and the Grenadines San Marino Singapore Spain Sri Lanka Thailand Trinidad and Tobago Tunisia Turkey Ukraine United Kingdom (plus Gibraltar and BVI) United States Uzbekistan Vatican City Vietnam
I plan to visit S. America in the next two years or so. I also hope to visit sub-Sahara Africa before I get too old and decrepit. Now that will really jack up one's country count!
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 3:06 pm |
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Not sure but the 52 page passports don't last all that long for me...
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 3:38 pm |
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(Ben2World @ Nov. 27 2012, 12:06 pm)
QUOTE Can't 'vote' in my own poll, but thus far, I've been to 61 countries: Antigua and Barbuda Bahamas Bangladesh Barbados Belarus Brunei Cambodia Canada China (mainland and Taiwan) Costa Rica Cuba Dominica Dominican Republic East Timor Egypt France (only Paris and Martinique) Greece Grenada Guatemala Haiti India Indonesia Ireland Israel Italy Jamaica Japan Jordan Korea, South Laos Malaysia Malta Mexico Mongolia Morocco Myanmar Nicaragua Palestine Panama Philippines Poland Portugal (and Azores) Russia Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Lucia Saint Martin (Netherlands) Saint Vincent and the Grenadines San Marino Singapore Spain Sri Lanka Thailand Trinidad and Tobago Tunisia Turkey Ukraine United Kingdom (plus Gibraltar and BVI) United States Uzbekistan Vatican City Vietnam I plan to visit S. America in the next two years or so. I also hope to visit sub-Sahara Africa before I get too old and decrepit. Now that will really jack up one's country count!  I can't believe you haven't been to Texas. You really should try to get out more Ben.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 4:15 pm |
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(Ben2World @ Nov. 27 2012, 2:56 pm)
QUOTE As an example, it might seem strange for a foreigner who has only ever been to Guam to say that she has been to USA. But then, it would also be illogical to travel to a United States territory and then claim to have never, ever been to the US. Well, I have UK, Caymans and BVI listed separately. And I see it differently or, at least, not as simply.
MOST BVIslanders would tell you that they've "never, ever" been to the UK and would certainly never call themselves "British". They're "BVIslanders", carry a different passport and have a specific BVI citizenship (belonger) status that's not given to the British expats living there.
Imo, the fact that the Saint Lucia is a soverign island while the BVI isn't is just a technicality. From the perspective of a cultural visitor (i.e. "traveler"), I think the BVI, Cayman Islands, England, Scotland and Ireland are ALL different "countries".
A superset of the Olympic Nations and UN member nations would at least make more sense. JMO.
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 4:24 pm |
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(TigerFan @ Nov. 27 2012, 1:15 pm)
QUOTE (Ben2World @ Nov. 27 2012, 2:56 pm)
QUOTE As an example, it might seem strange for a foreigner who has only ever been to Guam to say that she has been to USA. But then, it would also be illogical to travel to a United States territory and then claim to have never, ever been to the US. Well, I have UK, Caymans and BVI listed separately. And I see it differently or, at least, not as simply. MOST BVIslanders would tell you that they've "never, ever" been to the UK and would certainly never call themselves "British". They're "BVIslanders", carry a different passport and have a specific BVI citizenship (belonger) status that's not given to the British expats living there. Imo, the fact that the Saint Lucia is a soverign island while the BVI isn't is just a technicality. From the perspective of a cultural visitor (i.e. "traveler"), I think the BVI, Cayman Islands, England, Scotland and Ireland are ALL different "countries". A superset of the Olympic Nations and UN member nations would at least make more sense. JMO. And that's why we have different lists floating around. I think I once saw a list with 260 'countries'!! Bottom line: we just need to use the one that makes the most sense to us.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 5:40 pm |
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Let's see I live in Japan but I still counted it:
Japan China Korea Thailand Singapore Malaysia Cambodia Indonesia East Timor Kuwait Saudi Arabia Iraq Bahrain U. A. E. Egypt Kenya Somalia Djibouti U.K. Ireland Italy France Belgium Germany Bosnia-Herzigovina Turkey Jamaica Canada Mexico
The "to-do" list for the next few years includes: Nepal, New Zealand, Portugal, & hopefully Brazil for the 2014 W.C.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 5:48 pm |
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Let's see...
Canada Mexico Costa Rica Germany Conch Republic Louisiana And...Texas!
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 6:01 pm |
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China,(mainlad, Macau & Hong Kong) Mexico Canada (all of listed above several times). England Costa Rica Japan
If military counts: Vietnam, Hong Kong.
And I've been to countless places in the USA Ben has never been to, such as Yosemite (more times than I could count).
Unlike Ben, I don't skip the lower page numbers of his favorite quote.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 6:05 pm |
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Been to England, Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Peru, Canada, Mexico (very briefly, probably shouldn't count it), Turkey, and Greece. I know it doesn't count as it's own country, but i've been to Puerto Rico as well--in some ways it felt like going to another country.
Doubt i will be visiting any more countries in the near future as finances are tighter than ever, but when we have traveled in the past we usually do it unusually cheap--stay at hostels or do couch surfing, search high and low for good plane tickets, etc.
I'm pretty amazed at your list Ben! My wife would probably love you just for that alone. I affectionately call her a travel whore. She's been to twice as many countries as i have.
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Posted on: Nov. 27 2012, 6:14 pm |
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(DonTom @ Nov. 27 2012, 3:01 pm)
QUOTE And I've been to countless places in the USA Ben has never been to, such as Yosemite (more times than I could count).
Unlike Ben, I don't skip the lower page numbers of his favorite quote.
-Don- Tsk tsk... why compare?
Truth be told, when traveling abroad, it's culture, the arts, architecture, history, economics, politics... that captivate me. And when traveling here at home, it's Nature.
You have been to three of the four China's. Unfortunately, you are missing out on the friendliest and most hospitable one: Taiwan! A modern country to be sure, but scratch beneath the surface, and it's Chinese traditions that are still lived day to day.
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