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hiroshimajaro082 

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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 5:51 pm |
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Saw this headline on Yahoo News and link to an interesting article. Cheers!
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hiroshimajaro082 

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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 5:53 pm |
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I guess the link would have been helpful....
http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor....ngerous
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 6:09 pm |
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Hua Shan is one of the five sacred mountains of China's Daoist religion. Very nice pics -- thanks for sharing the article!
I've only climbed one of five -- Huang Shan:
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GoBlueHiker 
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 6:25 pm |
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Given that on the most precarious "plank walk" there are chains you can grab and cables you can clip into, it really doesn't seem all that terribly bad, except in the head of course.
Climbers (especially freeclimbers) do more dangerous things regularly. Hell, I've been in worse spots (danger-wise) myself than what's pictured in the article. The dizzying effect of the large cliff faces is the major psychological factor there.
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GoBlueHiker 
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 7:23 pm |
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(Ben2World @ Dec. 12 2012, 4:46 pm)
QUOTE (GoBlueHiker @ Dec. 12 2012, 3:25 pm)
QUOTE Given that on the most precarious "plank walk" there are chains you can grab and cables you can clip into, it really doesn't seem all that terribly bad, except in the head of course.
Climbers (especially freeclimbers) do more dangerous things regularly. Hell, I've been in worse spots (danger-wise) myself than what's pictured in the article. The dizzying effect of the large cliff faces is the major psychological factor there. Yup. Hua Shan has been a pilgrimage destination (and climb) for Taoists (and others) for thousands of years. I have no doubt at all that it's a spectacular hike, and quite a pilgrimage for many thousands of Taoists and many others as well.
Just, the OP title "The World's Most Dangerous Hike" seemed more than a tad overblown. I'd have blamed it on media sensationalism (hyperbole so common in online headlines), but that's not actually the title of the article either. I guess "Snow and ice make China's Mount Hua pilgrimage especially dangerous" doesn't quite have the same ring. Oh well.
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 7:25 pm |
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(GoBlueHiker @ Dec. 12 2012, 4:23 pm)
QUOTE (Ben2World @ Dec. 12 2012, 4:46 pm)
QUOTE (GoBlueHiker @ Dec. 12 2012, 3:25 pm)
QUOTE Given that on the most precarious "plank walk" there are chains you can grab and cables you can clip into, it really doesn't seem all that terribly bad, except in the head of course.
Climbers (especially freeclimbers) do more dangerous things regularly. Hell, I've been in worse spots (danger-wise) myself than what's pictured in the article. The dizzying effect of the large cliff faces is the major psychological factor there. Yup. Hua Shan has been a pilgrimage destination (and climb) for Taoists (and others) for thousands of years. I have no doubt at all that it's a spectacular hike, and quite a pilgrimage for many thousands of Taoists and many others as well. Just, the OP title "The World's Most Dangerous Hike" seemed more than a tad overblown. I'd have blamed it on media sensationalism (hyperbole so common in online headlines), but that's not actually the title of the article either. I guess "Snow and ice make China's Mount Hua pilgrimage especially dangerous" doesn't quite have the same ring. Oh well. We'll pin it on forum hype then. I haven't climbed it, but my hunch is that like Mt. Whitney, it's a completely non-technical hike in the summer, but treacherous and dangerous in the thick of a winter storm.
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Franco 

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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 7:34 pm |
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The word in the title was "hike" not climb...
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 8:00 pm |
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I hate to be so indifferent but I think everyone is right.
Either way, very cool.
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 8:03 pm |
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I keep expecting to see a picture of the Most Interesting Man in the World, who seems like an appropriate partner for such a hike.
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RebeccaD 
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 8:45 pm |
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I think what makes it so notable is that it's not a hikers' route, but a pilgrim route. Well that and the totally ramshackle look of it all, scotch-taped to the face of a cliff.
I'm with Foggy. Not for me.
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TJCeeJay 
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 9:07 pm |
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That's pretty freaky, but it ain't got nothin' on el Camino del Ray.
http://youtu.be/ZmDhRvvs5Xw
The pathways are bigger, but a LOT more decrepit. I get vertigo just watching the el Camino del Ray videos, but the Hua Shan just doesn't look as scary.
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Posted on: Dec. 12 2012, 9:53 pm |
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Some of my more recent excursions in DV were many orders of magnitude more dangerous.
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 8:53 am |
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I'm in! If the Chinese gov't won't say how many died on it...I need to see for myself. But not in the winter.
No way, no how, if there's ice on that.
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big_load 

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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 9:53 am |
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I would be scared, but I think I could handle that. It would be different if there were no chains/cables.
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Lamebeaver 
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 10:03 am |
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You think that's a dangerous trail? HA! I'd take it any day of the week over this one.

It's enough to make you f_ _ _ ing goofy!
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Ben2World 

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Disney? Crowded? Pfffftt...
Sorry, but if you haven't been to Asia, you haven't a clue! Wanna dip in? 

Or try buying a train ticket for the Spring holidays!
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spindle 

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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 3:20 pm |
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No and no thanks. Too much.
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RebeccaD 
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 3:21 pm |
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(spindle @ Dec. 13 2012, 9:51 am)
QUOTE (Lamebeaver @ Dec. 13 2012, 10:03 am)
QUOTE You think that's a dangerous trail? HA! I'd take it any day of the week over this one.  It's enough to make you f_ _ _ ing goofy! That's kinda what my version of "Hell" looks like. +10000
Ben, your pictures are whatever is worse than hell for me.
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That's an absurd amount of people packed in both pictures. I get a mini-anxiety attack when I end up on packed subway train, but at least I know my stop isn't far away. That bottom picture looks like it could take someone hours to navigate through that crowd!! Yikes!
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Dec. 13 2012, 3:34 pm |
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Absurd? Picture this your daily commute. A totally normal scene at pretty much all Chinese subway stations (also applicable to most all other Asian metros):

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(GoBlueHiker @ Dec. 13 2012, 9:47 am)
QUOTE (WalksWithBlackflies @ Dec. 13 2012, 6:13 am)
QUOTE [quote=GoBlueHiker,Dec. 12 2012, 6:25 pm]Given that on the most precarious "plank walk" there are chains you can grab and cables you can clip into, it really doesn't seem all that terribly bad, except in the head of course.
Climbers (especially freeclimbers) do more dangerous things regularly. Hell, I've been in worse spots (danger-wise) myself than what's pictured in the article. The dizzying effect of the large cliff faces is the major psychological factor there. Sorry, dude... gotta disagree with you. I'd rather free climb that than rely on a 100-year old Chinese wooden plank. Yeah... this looks like it meets code: When you're clipped in to the cables above, just out of frame of that picture? Sorry, not that terribly dangerous. I've had to do plenty worse. If it weren't for the safety apparrata I'd likely agree with you. I have trust issues. And "Chinese safety apparata" is an oxymoron.
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