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There seems to be an explosion of feral cats everywhere.  They amount to an invasive species, however they are legal protected by law in every state that I'm aware off.  Should legal protections be removed?
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There seems to be an explosion of feral cats everywhere.  They amount to an invasive species, however they are legal protected by law in every state that I'm aware off.  Should legal protections be removed?

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We had/have huge problems with them in the area I grew up in Australia. They're difficult to remove, but something should be done; they're ecogically awful.

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NYS ECL § 11-0529.  Cats hunting birds

  1. Any person over the age of twenty-one years possessing a hunting license may.. humanely destroy cats at large found hunting or killing any protected wild bird or with a dead bird of any protected species in its possession.
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Here you go..   :;):

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Ben, I think you misunderstand my point.  Feral cats are not bothering my personal space.  It is the larger issue.  In my observations, I have notice a sharp increase in recent years.  Maybe that just corresponds to increase in human population.
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  1. Any person over the age of twenty-one years possessing a hunting license may.. humanely destroy cats at large found hunting or killing any protected wild bird or with a dead bird of any protected species in its possession.

That would seem to be a pretty good start.
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I grew up on the border of Solvay, NY.  Feral cats were never a problem.
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legalize the use of cat meat in roadside tamale stands.

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I guess we could deploy the "millions of qualified active and retired police; active, reserve and retired military; security professionals; certified firefighters and rescue personnel; and an extraordinary corps of patriotic, trained qualified citizens in devising a protection plan for every" ecosystem. That would no doubt solve the problem. :)

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A while back, this was a surprisingly controversial topic at HikeArizona.  There's a big feral cat population at the Gilbert Riparian Preserve, which is also home to a lot of birds that could do without the extra cats, IMO.
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Kill 'em all. I despise feral cats as much as feral hogs.
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Here's a good article on same in today's NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012....hp&_r=0


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And almost as much as feral children.

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My neighbor has implemented a very effective "Don't ask don't tell' program in this regard.


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Thats the nice thing about having the Coyotes move back in the my neighborhood. They keep the population of cats, rabbits and skunks down outside the fenced in yard and my dogs keep the cats and Coyotes out of inside the fence. If I could only figure out how to get the dogs not to bark at the Coyotes when they come to nap in the sun in my micro prairie or on the compost pile.
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As much as I like cats, feral and even domestic cats can devastate some bird populations.  The only solution to feral cats is to eliminate them.

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Whatta'ya mean by 'other' white meat?   :p

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We have feral dogs, so went the feral cat problem, now what to do about the feral dogs?

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I kind of live where the cold of the Rockies meets the cold of the Northern Plains. Not very cozy for feral cats. Result is that there may be websites that refer to feral cats in the state, but I've never heard of any dens or nests around here. Not good climate for them, especially with healthy coyote, bobcat, and mountain lion populations.

You could probably find a rancher's barn with a cat population, but the cats are not truly feral. They live on the mice that live on the grain left over in the barn. So the ranchers think the cats somehow do them a service by controlling the mice.

But feral cats and dogs are a humongous problem. Even in my own state, when feral dogs do the damage, wolves get the blame. But the fact remains that feral or uncontrolled domestic dogs do far more damage than wolves.


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Kill em all.....big problem in some parts of Utah.....legal to as well.
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Yer crazy, a 22/250 is waaaaaaay better.

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Yer crazy, a 22/250 is waaaaaaay better.

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Travis, I know Newcastle had a huge population of feral cats.  My Mother in law always live trapped them and found homes for the kittens and had the adults neutered and spade and released.  She was instrumental in getting a cat wing on the Weston County humane society but the feral cats found plenty of places to shelter and survive the Wyoming winter in the wild.

Although my Father-in-law fed the turkeys and deer which meant that the mountain lions came in closer and once he saw one walking off with the neighbors cat in its jaws, so I'm sure more than one went that way too.


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I wouldn't know about Newcastle or other little towns. I haven't lived there for decades. But that's neat what your mother in law did.

I guess I was thinking more of rural areas in the foothills or out in the country.


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I wouldn't know about Newcastle or other little towns. I haven't lived there for decades. But that's neat what your mother in law did.

I guess I was thinking more of rural areas in the foothills or out in the country.

in most places, feral cats are strongly associated with humans.  they either require supplemental feeding to survive, or they live off of the mice and rats that live off of our garbage.

feral cats tend to fare better on their own in more arid environments where there are a lot of small animals (lizards, rodents, birds, marsupials with few defenses against them, etc).


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