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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs....hunters

I almost put this in TPA, but I'm hopeful it will do ok here.

So, what are the group thoughts?  I'm not really sure it's a wise idea to have people tromping through the Everglades in search of a prize winning apex preditor when they may not be terribly aware of how dangerous the swamp can be.  For people like our esteemed friend Roger, he knows his risks and how to avoid them.  For someone out of area just looking for a good story and prize money, I see Darwin's fingerprints all over this.


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Tons of people skilled enough down there to hunt them.  Like the iguanas,  big problem.  Except the pythons can Tolerate the cold better. Reality show, perhaps?

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http://www.pythonchallenge.org/toolkit/euthanasia.aspx

I was also surprised to learn that the head of the animal would still feel pain long after decapitation unless the brain was destroyed.


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They had a brief training before turning these folks loose in the glades.  I suspect that many of them will give up or not venture into the glades very far.  The water level falls this time of year but it is not called the river of grass for nothing.  The park has only one road that goes from Homestead to Flamingo.  The rest is accessible either by foot or boat and much of the area is hard to penetrate.  

The python problem threatens the wildlife of the glades.  You do not see raccoons and rabbits in the campgrounds anymore.  Pythons have been found with birds such as the White Ibis in their stomachs.  They will consume deer, alligators etc.  Not much is safe from them.  

This hunt is an experiment to gather data and see how many snakes are killed.  Once the hunt is completed they will evaluate the results to see if it is worth doing again.  

While I received my master in biology and was a herpetologist all so long ago I know my limits and venturing deep into the glades is not something I want to do.  I will stick with paddling around the edge of the glades.

For more information the home page for the ENP has a link to python information.  

Below is a picture of a python taken from the glades.  It had a 76 lb deer in its stomach.  




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They should do "man v snake" contests at county fairs and charge money.

Not to leave out the womenfolk -- there should also be snake recipe contests.  :p


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I'm not really sure it's a wise idea to have people tromping through the Everglades in search of a prize winning apex preditor when they may not be terribly aware of how dangerous the swamp can be.  

People who grow up in the swamps pretty much know how to deal with them.  Kind of like people up north know how to deal with snow & ice.  It's just whatever is in your repertoire, I think.

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I have faith in mans ability to extinct an animal from an ecosystem.  Getting paid for it is extra incentive.

I almost feel sorry for the snakes.
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Python tastes jes like chicken!
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They may taste like chicken but given where they live and there place on the food chain their meat most likely will have enough mercury to prevent them from being marketed.  There are lot warning signs in the glades concerning the mercury in the fish and how much one should consume.  

Humans have a remarkable ability to kill native animals off but they have not fared as well when it comes to killing introduced animals.


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So, what are the group thoughts?

While I hate the idea of killing any snake, in the Everglades getting rid of those pythons  is a necessity.

And somehow, it even sounds like fun hunting them down. I would be willing to help out if I wasn't 3,000 miles away.

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I'm not really sure it's a wise idea to have people tromping through the Everglades in search of a prize winning apex preditor when they may not be terribly aware of how dangerous the swamp can be.  

People who grow up in the swamps pretty much know how to deal with them.  Kind of like people up north know how to deal with snow & ice.  It's just whatever is in your repertoire, I think.

I never really worried about the locals.  I was thinking more of some of my idiot friends that think Florida is Disney; Key West and attractive women in small bikinis who suddenly thought this might be fun if they do it again.  

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Oh send them, please ... evolution and survival of the fittest and all that!  :D

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Unlike some other animals out there I don't think anyone here is going to argue these snakes aren't incredibly destructive invasive species.

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Would be a good idea for someone to create a cage trap with a mouse or rat inside that could not escape and had food to keep it alive.  The trap would only have an opening wide enough for a snake to slide into.   Of course the creative part is figuring a way to keep a small rat inside a cage that has an opening larger than its body size.   Maybe some kind of hogtie string.  Would need to put some food/water in cage for the rat.   Once a snake entered in far enough inside, it would get impaled by a spring trigger.  

They could dump cages all over the Everglades and later come back and pick them up.    That would also tell them quickly where and where not infestations were.


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That'd be great!  Fresh food for the gators without even having to work for it!!  :;):

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What a farce. A buddy of mine had a contract to repair all of the tree damage on the park road after hurricane ??? Lost track....in 2004 or so. There werent any leaves on the trees and the pythons were hanging from the branches like spaghetti from the ceiling fan at an Italians retirement party. You could have killed hundreds and hundreds a day.More with an airboat.Couldn't happen. The park was officially "closed" due to a declaration of natural disaster. The bureaucratic idiocracy at work, and mindless idiots to enforce it,yet again.Now it's time for a "war on pythons" which will be a complete failure jut like the "wars" on everything else. The guy in Lauderdale is gonna make the bank selling those skins ! Every Redneck wanna be in China and India will be sporting a pair of boots.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US....8530683

While the hunt was not overly effective, given that the take was so small, the organizer seems to be very bright.  Keeping the snakes alive when brought in, and putting a radio in them, seems too intelligent.  Now all they need to do is track them, which may be easier said than done.  


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I'm not too optimistic about python eradication, but I would like a matching vest to go with new boots   :p

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I'm not too optimistic about python eradication, but I would like a matching vest to go with new boots   :p

Y'know, my python boot is too tight
I couldn't get it off last night
A week went by, an' now it's July
I finally got it off
An' my girl-friend cry
"You got STINK FOOT!

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The sound box of the er hu or Chinese violin is faced with a piece of python skin.  :cool:



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Invasive species, so I have no problem with Fla trying to take them out anyway they can.  Snakes can have lots of little snakes, however.  

Of course lax laws allowed them into the state in the first place (not only unique to Fla).  It's not the snakes fault, but that species should not be there.


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Y'all haven't seen Swamp People on TV yet, have you?

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Actually I have and no doubt they'll figure a way to make python sausage.  Mix it with the squirrel.

Having been around a dissected python, that was an atrocious smell.  Nothing a bunch of cayenne won't cover up I bet ..


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I'm not too optimistic about python eradication, but I would like a matching vest to go with new boots   :p

Y'know, my python boot is too tight
I couldn't get it off last night
A week went by, an' now it's July
I finally got it off
An' my girl-friend cry
"You got STINK FOOT!

http://www.lyricstime.com/frank-zappa-stink-foot-lyrics.html

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