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Are these more frequent this year, are they being reported more, or are we noticing them more?

No matter which it is, it is still awful.


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Are these more frequent this year, are they being reported more, or are we noticing them more?

No matter which it is, it is still awful.

These have always been reported front page, so it's the former.  

Just with the internet and round the clock television access, word gets around faster than waiting for the 5 o'clock news to start.


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Are these more frequent this year, are they being reported more, or are we noticing them more?

No matter which it is, it is still awful.

I seriously doubt they are being reported more....

When the time comes when campus or store or workplace shootings no longer make it to the front pages -- that will be the truly sad day.

So how will this develop?  I don't see us getting rid of guns and ammo anytime soon... So at the other end, will security in the common areas come to resemble our airports more and more?  Or will we come to accept shooting deaths like we accept traffic deaths -- and continue on with our lives?


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Sorry but this was a common occurrence that happens every day all over the world, not just here.

I know many don't like the comparison but I want to see the same immediate internet coverage when a drunk driver has a crash and/or kills someone. It's a simple fact that gunfire anywhere, even when no one gets killed, is an instant "OH MY GOD!" all over the net while a drunk someone who taking out a whole family barely rates the local news.


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Sorry but this was a common occurrence that happens every day all over the world, not just here.

Not true.

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Sorry but this was a common occurrence that happens every day all over the world, not just here.

Not true.

You're saying nowhere else on the planet do antagonists start arguing and whip out guns and start shooting at each other? You really need to contact all gang enforcement units and explain just why a bunch of Crips and Bloods had it out with guns.

It wouldn't have been an immediate worldwide internet sensation if the same 2 guys had started popping caps on each other 2 blocks over behind a bar. The location is the only thing that makes this net headline news.


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Sorry but this was a common occurrence that happens every day all over the world, not just here.

Not true.

You're saying nowhere else on the planet do antagonists start arguing and whip out guns and start shooting at each other? You really need to contact all gang enforcement units and explain just why a bunch of Crips and Bloods had it out with guns.

It wouldn't have been an immediate worldwide internet sensation if the same 2 guys had started popping caps on each other 2 blocks over behind a bar. The location is the only thing that makes this net headline news.

We choose collectively the kind of society we want to live in.  That's fine.  We don't have to be like the rest of the world.  But when you use words like "common occurrence that happens every day all over the world" - then that is absolutely untrue in great parts of the world.


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You're saying nowhere else on the planet do antagonists start arguing and whip out guns and start shooting at each other? You really need to contact all gang enforcement units and explain just why a bunch of Crips and Bloods had it out with guns.

Yes, it does happen in other places, but infrequently, much, much less often than in the US.

We rank right up there with countries that are in the midst of a civil war.


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when you use words like "common occurrence that happens every day all over the world" - then that is absolutely untrue in great parts of the world.

Ben is right especially when referring to the industrialized developed world.  Now if you want to compare us to places like Somalia, Yemen and Mali and other failed states, then I guess we're in the same company, but that alone tells me something very disturbing.

We do have a gun problem in this country whether you admit it or not.  But hey, I've got the solution.  More guns.  That ought to do it.


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A common occurrence every day in the world does not mean it happens every day in every place but does somewhere at least once per day, occasionally even in places that anti-gunners hold up as paragons of a gun banned utopia.

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A common occurrence every day in the world does not mean it happens every day in every place but does somewhere at least once per day, occasionally even in places that anti-gunners hold up as paragons of a gun banned utopia.

So tell me, outright wars and insurgencies aside -- where in the world outside of the US did school kids shoot up their schools with comparable frequency  to what we've got here at home!


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Montana has already admitted that the entire rest of the world is comparable to the mass shooting in our good old US of A.  And even there we probably win by a pretty wide margin.

What a country!


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school kids shoot up their schools with comparable frequency  to what we've got here at home!

Quote anywhere in that report where the 2 antagonists "shot up their school".

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school kids shoot up their schools with comparable frequency  to what we've got here at home!

Quote anywhere in that report where the 2 antagonists "shot up their school".

The thread is about yet another shooting in our schools...  But feel free to expand and tells us just where else in the world are shootings in schools and workplaces and shopping malls a common occurrence every day.

It's one thing to say that we as a society are willing to put up with these shootings for the sake of freedom to bear arms.  That's a choice we make and the consequence we face.

But it is simply untrue -- and self delusional on your part -- that these kinds of shootings are common all over the world.   If so, then there should be no shortage of daily or near-daily reports.  Otherwise, how would YOU know?  So, expand the killings and show me a month's worth!  Wars and insurgencies excepted, of course, since wars and civil wars/unrests are not what we are talking about here.


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It was not a shooting IN school, it was a shooting outside school, even if on school grounds, and was specifically between 2 guys and not randomly shooting passersby although one was hit by a stray shot. This incident is nothing like some whackjob walking into a school and targeting multiple strangers.

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It was not a shooting IN school, it was a shooting outside school, even if on school grounds, and was specifically between 2 guys and not randomly shooting passersby although one was hit by a stray shot. This incident is nothing like some whackjob walking into a school and targeting multiple strangers.

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It wouldn't have been an immediate worldwide internet sensation if the same 2 guys had started popping caps on each other 2 blocks over behind a bar. The location is the only thing that makes this net headline news.

LW - you are self-delusional -- and I suspect intentionally so.  No links from you... just more 'xplaining...  End of our exchange.


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Yep, our culture of ultra gun violence takes many forms, all of them resulting in dead human beings, and mostly young dead human beings.

If they could just limit themselves to shooting those of us over 65 yers old, the outcry would be much less.  heh


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