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reubenstump 
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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 5:53 am |
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The link has a booger in it. Take out the break and it'll work.
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SnidelyWhiplash 

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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 6:35 am |
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I picked that booger. Weird though, the link was being changed by the forum after I posted it. I had to run it through a link shortened to make it work.
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BradMT 

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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 8:59 am |
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Yeah, budget cuts in the NPS while at the same time unnecessarily adding new NP's. Think the latest in California.
Talk about political nonsense...
-------------- Contentment is natural wealth, luxury is artificial poverty. – Socrates
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SW Mtn backpacker 
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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 9:57 am |
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Looks like the Congress pushed the debt ceiling off til May, so it might be a good time to take any high-maintenance trips to the National Parks.
-------------- Usually Southwest and then some.
In wildness is the preservation of the world. - Henry Thoreau
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EastieTrekker 

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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 10:20 am |
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Good to see you back Snidely! Been getting out at all?
As for the topic, it's unfortunate, but not surprising to see these cuts looming. While there may be pockets of Americans who truly care for what little preservation we have in place, I think the general populace could give a %$^ as to what happens with our NPS.
-------------- I request all the possible consumer protection organizations, and fight with their injustice.
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wycanislatrans 

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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 10:47 am |
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5% cut with a proposed 8% cut in FY 2014.
What I find amusing is the comments...
QUOTE Undoubtedly a serious crime occurs at Yellowstone occasionally, but really, is its own magistrate, its own FBI agent, four jail cells, and a number of administrative subdepartments necessary? If the NPS has a 5% budget reduction, maybe the Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho counties that the park occupies can take over the work.
Really, you think the counties are going to do the law enforcement, for free? I have a bridge to sell you if you believe that.
QUOTE This is fantastic news for Yellowstone. Instead of spending millions every few years on an EIS that proves snowmobiles don't belong in Yellowstone, and then ignoring the results, the NPS can eliminate snowmobiling. This will save millions on the cost of all the EIS's, plus millions per year on the cost of snowmobiling.
Really, that will go over well.
QUOTE Get rid of most of the rangers' guns.
OK, yeah great idea. I'm sure the country deputy that is over 100 miles away will provide adequate backup.
QUOTE Ask Congress to allow the individual park staff to do more of the planning and reduce the multilevel and enormously unwieldy NEPA, Wilderness Act, Organic Act, etc., etc., planning processes.
While I am all for more management at the local level there is a reason we have planning and scoping processes. Time for public input is one of them.
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tarol 
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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 4:38 pm |
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"Spending on these health and natural resources programs make up just a little more than 1 percent of the federal budget. So cutting them more deeply—because they’ve already taken a hit in past budget cuts —will hardly dent the deficit, but it will damage popular programs that benefit all Americans,"
That's the message I hope really comes through - look at the proportion of the US Govt budget that goes to natural resource programs vs. military or social security or the other big takers. Cutting from the former results in such measly savings overall... Is it even worth it??
BTW, we've been in the no money for training/travel/uniforms/office supplies/etc for a while now... not to mention we lost about 30 full time employees last year, and all of our seasonals. One ranger station has closed, all the others have cut back on hours. Campgrounds/picnic areas have already reduced hours. Unless a volunteer group is doing it, things like trash pickup, trail maintenance, outreach/education, etc. doesn't really get done anymore. It sucks...
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High_Sierra_Fan 

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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 4:47 pm |
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Across the board sequestration is SUPPOSED to be silly, obnoxious and in many ways counterproductive. The point was to make it so obnoxious Congress would want to avoid it's effects by actually working the budget problem. Time will tell.
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Ben2World 

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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 4:58 pm |
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People don't seem angry / disgusted enough that we spend each year on defense more than the next 17 highest-spending countries combined. Indeed, lots of people actually support that kind of spending!! So, something has to give (even with relentless borrowing) -- and who's lowest on the totem pole? Libraries? Parks?
-------------- The world is a book and those who do not travel read only a page. -- St. Augustine
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High_Sierra_Fan 

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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 6:47 pm |
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National parks may only be designated through an act of Congress.
"Additions to the National Park System are now generally made through Acts of Congress, and national parks can be created only through such Acts."
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High_Sierra_Fan 

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Posted on: Feb. 01 2013, 7:26 pm |
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(BradMT @ Feb. 01 2013, 4:12 pm)
QUOTE (High_Sierra_Fan @ Feb. 01 2013, 4:47 pm)
QUOTE National parks may only be designated through an act of Congress. "Additions to the National Park System are now generally made through Acts of Congress, and national parks can be created only through such Acts." I think we all understand that... but it's also not hard to understand they slip in through the cracks by being attached to other legislation. Like most things in our chickenchit congress... Yeah.
Love Christmas Trees. Not at ALL fond of "Christmas Tree Legislation".
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