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The Aspen-Sopris Ranger District, White River National Forest in Colorado is recruiting applicants for several Wilderness Ranger internship positions for the summer of 2013.

WHO: Applicants for these positions should have experience and/or interest in the duties described. This is a physically arduous job exposed to mountain weather. The ideal applicant is an experienced outdoor leader who is passionate about the stewardship of wild lands and interested in a career in natural resource management.

WHAT: Ranger interns primary duty is to patrol the district’s five Wilderness areas to educate visitors and protect the area’s wild character. Interns will receive intensive training and education in natural resource management from an inter-disciplinary, field based perspective. The Aspen-Sopris RD is on the cutting edge of Wilderness stewardship and interns will benefit greatly from the opportunity to work in this challenging environment.

Intern compensation includes a food stipend ($150/week), housing, and an exceptional career/life experience.

WHEN: These positions run from June to mid-August.

WHERE: Aspen, CO
Housing is available

CONTACT and APPLY:
Andrew Larson at arlarson@fs.fed.us
Please include a letter of interest and resume before March 1, 2013.

Position Duties Include:

4 day backpacking patrols of ~30 miles at high elevation in seasonal conditions over weekends and holidays

Carrying a 50 – 75 lb pack plus tools

Educating visitors on Wilderness ethics/regulations

Trail maintenance using primitive tools

Leading volunteers and community partners on service, training and education events

Natural resource monitoring

Restoration of impacted sites

Sign/TH installation and maintenance

Invasive species monitoring and treatment

Community outreach for Wilderness awareness

Various other duties in support of the Wilderness and district programs

The iconic Maroon Bells-Snowmass Wilderness draws thousands of visitors from around the world each summer

The USFS is an Equal Opportunity Employer


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Hmmm.

Too bad it weren't paid.


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Are you kidding? That's my dream job. Too bad I have all these financial obligations.


I may have consumed more that $150/week in food & libations on volunteer trips in the Los Padres.
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Hmmm.

Too bad it weren't paid.

No, but it's your foot in the door to a paid wilderness ranger job.  Most rangers don't just walk into their jobs - people I know had to do an internship or be a volunteer first.

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I'm guessing that with an MS or PhD someday in ecology, I could more or less walk into such a job.

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Hmmm.

Too bad it weren't paid.

Umm,it is paid.

You're getting to live for free, free meals and housing.

I did nearly the same thing, for 2 summers in the 70's for a Kid's Camp in Estes Park

I got free room and board, and paid $ 800 + over and above that, for 2 1/2 months of my summer, doing nothing more than guiding a bunch of HS aged kids, hiking/BP'g /climbing all over RMNP/IPW (before it was IWP), over every single summit, minor summit, drainage, lake there is in N CO.

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"Carrying a 50 – 75 lb pack plus tools"

:laugh: If I took that internship, I would use the $150 per week to hire some poor schmuck to carry my pack. Although, I suppose I might get in trouble for failing to pay the minimum federal wage...
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Paid means money to cover bills. Which this doesn't offer. I don't equate free cost of living with pay.

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Where were internet job postings 20+ years ago when I graduated from university.  The military took all the fun out of 75 lb (+) packs a long time ago.  Too bad NPS/USFS, .. could have had the best, now need to settle for the rest  :p

(those pesky student loans recollection agents would've probably helicopter assaulted into the forest after me, anyways)


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I am far from saying anything negative about this position or the requirements of unpaid work before paid work in many fields. I'm just at the point in my life where things like this have to pay.

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..I'm just at the point in my life where things like this have to pay.

It's probably a good opportunity for a college student in the summer without bills. $150/month is a lot of ramen noodles.

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I'll let Thumper know.  He is sick of IT.
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I'm guessing that with an MS or PhD someday in ecology, I could more or less walk into such a job.

Actually, no.  Now if you are a veteran, you might be able to.

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I'd be applying for that job in a heartbeat if I had a half a chance (and the time). An MD with undergrads in PR, Biology, and a couple years of watershed quality research experience doesn't give you any special preference, does it? I might be looking in a few years...  :D
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I'm guessing that with an MS or PhD someday in ecology, I could more or less walk into such a job.

Actually, no.  Now if you are a veteran, you might be able to.

That's sad. At least that's not the situation with the Park Service where naturalists and other rangers are invariably qualified.


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This looks like a great gig.  I wish I had know about jobs like this one when I was 20.
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I'm with Snidely.  Though even as an undergrad I had to make more than that over  summer, since summer work had to pay at least some of my school bills (winter work paid the rest).

I was actually looking at the posting and thinking, gee, wonder if I could get away. . . right up until the "50-75 lb pack" part :D  I am so over carrying half my body weight.


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That's sad. At least that's not the situation with the Park Service where naturalists and other rangers are invariably qualified.

Uh, no, I wish!

Don't get me wrong, education is a good thing to have.   But it's not the only thing federal land managers look for, whether it be the NPS or FS or FWS or whatever agency.  Experience is a biggie - like I said, the best way in the door is to volunteer or do an intership if you can.  And Veterans are given a big leg up no matter what job they apply for in the federal government.


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I worded that horribly. My apologies Tarol.

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If this were in Arizona, I would jump on it. Oh well.


...and I'm a veteran :p


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If this were in Arizona, I would jump on it. Oh well.


...and I'm a veteran :p

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/331045200

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If this were in Arizona, I would jump on it. Oh well.


...and I'm a veteran :p

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/331045200

apply!!

When I get done in North Dakota this winter, I WILL apply for that.

The position in your op was for this coming summer, which would have been great.


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If this were in Arizona, I would jump on it. Oh well.


...and I'm a veteran :p

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/331045200

apply!!

When I get done in North Dakota this winter, I WILL apply for that.

The position in your op was for this coming summer, which would have been great.

Most if not all of these positions will be for the upcoming summer as well - FS jobs are flown for any particular job series in an "open-continuous announcement" period.  At any time a manager can pull a cert list and start the process of hiring :)

They have announcements at the GS-4, 5, and 6 level


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More specific to trail construction:

https://my.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/336690300


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Tarol,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing the volunteers and interns that are asked invited to apply for full time jobs are the ones with a positive attitude, who   are diplomatic in dealing with the public, and who get along well with the rest of the group, with education and knowledge being a secondary consideration.
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Well, ideally they have both!  But, yes - I think that can be said for most jobs.  Knowledge/education can usually be gained - it's harder to teach a positive attitude, good public service, and teamwork.

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I was actually looking at the posting and thinking, gee, wonder if I could get away. . .

Me too.  Wondering how long it would be before they noticed.  :;):

That trail work posting has plenty of location options.


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