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Who here hasn't been on a plane with crying babies?  Yes, annoying as heck.  But regardless... it's absolutely bewildering that any adult stranger would curse and slap a 19-month  old baby sitting next to him!   The man lost his job and worse, faces possible criminal prosecution -- not to mention the wrath of the baby's mother.  Read more here.

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Makes me want to slap a man...

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Slapping the parent(s) would have been more effective.

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From the article cited in the OP:  'Hundley's attorney, Marcia Shein, said her client is being unfairly portrayed.

"This has escalated into a racist issue and I want to be clear he is not a racist," Shein said.'

What?  It's alright to slap a 19month old who is not your own as long as you're not a racist?  That man has issues well beyond some obvious anger management ones.


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Slapping the parent(s) would have been more effective.

Agreed.

Okay, someone clue me in as to what either the parent or child did in this instance that would warrant a slap because I am obviously missing it...  We've probably all been on flights with crying infants and toddlers before and yes, when the cabin pressure changes, they tend to get really fussy.  But it seems to me that in this situation neither the mother nor the child did anything wrong.  Or am I missing something?  Just why would anyone slap the parent(s)?

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Can you imagine the scene if I had been the mother of that child?
The air marshals leading me away in cuffs and the man being taken away in a body bag.


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Slapping the parent(s) would have been more effective.

Agreed.

Okay, someone clue me in as to what either the parent or child did in this instance that would warrant a slap because I am obviously missing it...  We've probably all been on flights with crying infants and toddlers before and yes, when the cabin pressure changes, they tend to get really fussy.  But it seems to me that in this situation neither the mother nor the child did anything wrong.  Or am I missing something?  Just why would anyone slap the parent(s)?

You're not missing anything... it was a stupid comment.

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Can you imagine the scene if I had been the mother of that child?
The air marshals leading me away in cuffs and the man being taken away in a body bag.

Pretty much what I was thinking...  If anyone lays a hand on one of my children in that manner I'm going to jail and someone else is going to the hospital if they're lucky...

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Justifiable homicide.

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I was one of those moms who seldom took my kids to the grocery store or out to town where they were liable to raise hell like that.  I am not a fan of squalling kids anymore than the next person.
but because I know how it is... I tried not to put my kids in situations where the deck was stacked in favor of such an outburst.

The one time my daughter did me that way in K-Mart many moons ago.... I picked her up, left the buggy sitting there with stuff in it... and headed back home.

There was not one thing in that store I wanted enough to listen to that.


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Slapping the parent(s) would have been more effective.

Agreed.

Okay, someone clue me in as to what either the parent or child did in this instance that would warrant a slap because I am obviously missing it...  We've probably all been on flights with crying infants and toddlers before and yes, when the cabin pressure changes, they tend to get really fussy.  But it seems to me that in this situation neither the mother nor the child did anything wrong.  Or am I missing something?  Just why would anyone slap the parent(s)?

You're not missing anything... it was a stupid comment.

Agreed...  I just had to ask.  What would possibly cross someone's mind to think it was an appropriate comment?

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But the way the media is showing it, he's an old white haired white man,  sitting next to a blond with a baby who looks part African/American. He is drunk and racist and probably fuming before the baby makes a peep. Then it cries and he tells her to shut up the "N----- baby" and when she says, "what did you say?" he falls on her face and growls it with his mouth in her ear

Not saying it happened that way, but that is the angle on the news reports I've seen.


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Can you imagine the scene if I had been the mother of that child?
The air marshals leading me away in cuffs and the man being taken away in a body bag.

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If there was an A-hole of the Year award, I think this guy might just win.

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hahaha!@ tarpon6.  Yep.  

Mossy, as I have gotten older I am more peaceful.  Wisdom has shown me that I don't like to go to that angry place.  I avoid it like the plague. It makes me feel SO drained to become that enraged.  The aftermath is seldom if ever worth it.
But physically harming one of my kids esp. combined with racist remarks would be enough to bring it out.  I'd be seeing the red balloon of rage before my eyes and not much else.

BTW-- my sister is a big gal.  She is very athletic.  She had a beligerent old sot curse her while picking her children up from school. He was too drunk to drive so he could not muster the skill to maneuver past her vehicle where she was parked.  Plenty of room to pass.

He dropped the effing B word on her.
She turned off her car. Got out and asked him what he said??  He ran away like a scalded dog.

Easy to talk tough from behind the wheel. Not as easy with her in yo face, eh? ;^D


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But the way the media is showing it, he's an old white haired white man,  sitting next to a blond with a baby who looks part African/American. He is drunk and racist and probably fuming before the baby makes a peep. Then it cries and he tells her to shut up the "N----- baby" and when she says, "what did you say?" he falls on her face and growls it with his mouth in her ear

Not saying it happened that way, but that is the angle on the news reports I've seen.

That's quite a bit of speculation.

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Man Slaps Baby, Crying over Lost Job.

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If there was an A-hole of the Year award, I think this guy might just win.

Oh, it's very early in the year...  I'm sure by the time December rolls around he won't even be in the top ten!  But as of right now, I think he'd qualify as one of the front runners.

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Oh hell no.  Add alcohol into the mix and racial slurs and physical violence against a baby and I'd be in full battle fury.

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My view... the man was drunk -- which, of course, was his own doing.  Having said that, flying off the handle like that and slapping a child made him a Class A drunken a-hole -- but not necessarily a racist.

Something like that, assuming a first offense, a reasonable fine plus mandatory anger management and a week's worth of community service should suffice.  I don't see the necessity of a jail sentence.


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I dunno.  Calling the baby the "N" word kinda puts him in the racist corner.

If it talks like a racist...

He clearly needs a time out and an attitude realignment.  Jail would work.
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Being alcohol impaired does not excuse any of his actions.  He was not forced to drink to what appears to be in excess.  Anyone who uses the N word in such a context to me is a raciest.   I would not be happy with a screaming child beside me on a plane but not only would I not act out but using the N word would never enter my mind.  Any why do we only use N**** instead of the word?  Yes nigger is a word I do not like to hear in the context it is used today but over the years I have heard it a lot, especially in the 60’s, when I lived in south Georgia and north Florida.

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Being alcohol impaired does not excuse any of his actions.  He was not forced to drink to what appears to be in excess.  Anyone who uses the N word in such a context to me is a raciest.   I would not be happy with a screaming child beside me on a plane but not only would I not act out but using the N word would never enter my mind.  Any why do we only use N**** instead of the word?  Yes nigger is a word I do not like to hear in the context it is used today but over the years I have heard it a lot, especially in the 60’s, when I lived in south Georgia and north Florida.

We're working very hard at making those labels nonexistant, as ignorant mindsets that need purging from society.

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N, F, GD.  All of them convey the word we are thinking, and to my mind are no better than saying the word itself.  To hear people, that think it is too crude to speak the words, saying things like friggin', or "the F word" just boggles my mind.  What?  Do they think we do not translate that in our minds?  Would be better if they just omitted the expletive altogether.  

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I've always thought that serving alcohol before and during a flight - during which people are seated elbow-to-elbow in a glorified Pringles can - is asking for trouble.

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Oh, it's very early in the year...  I'm sure by the time December rolls around he won't even be in the top ten!  .

Sadly, you may well be right.

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Slapping the parent(s) would have been more effective.

Agreed.

Okay, someone clue me in as to what either the parent or child did in this instance that would warrant a slap because I am obviously missing it...  We've probably all been on flights with crying infants and toddlers before and yes, when the cabin pressure changes, they tend to get really fussy.  But it seems to me that in this situation neither the mother nor the child did anything wrong.  Or am I missing something?  Just why would anyone slap the parent(s)?

You're not missing anything... it was a stupid comment.

Indeed, but I laughed anyway :)

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Nice.  That's the kind of headline you would expect from The Onion!

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